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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2010, 09:01:47 PM »
Quote from: Takiro on April 24, 2009, 01:33:08 AM
While assembling a final overview of the DCMS circa 2785 I stumbled on to something I should have done with the Capellans. What Military Academies currently exist in the Draconis Combine?

Confirmed
Sun Zhang Mechwarrior Academy
Aerospace and Interstellar Institute
University of Proserpina
Galedon Military Academy
Pagoda for Luthien Officers
Wisdom of the Dragon
Internal Security College
Minoru Kurita University

Questionable
Kensai Kami?
Sun Tzu School of Combat?
An Ting University?
Rasalhague?

I'd like to get your thoughts on the questionable so chime in.

An Ting Academy wasn't founded until 2820 FM:DC p. 97
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2010, 09:02:15 PM »
rainbow 6

I think the Rasalhague District academy was on Radstadt.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2010, 09:02:34 PM »
Takiro

I suppose Kensai Kami and Sun Tzu School of Combat could be around as of 2785 but there is so little information on the subject.

I will cross the An Ting University off the list then.

Any further information on the Radstadt academy? I'll look again. Would Benjamin and Pesht have District Gymnasiums or some such like Dieron did?

Given the formation of the Gaijin and the Ronin should we training camps recently established on Algedi and Ashio?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2010, 09:02:54 PM »
MechRat

Quote from: Takiro on April 24, 2009, 10:17:47 AM
Would Benjamin and Pesht have District Gymnasiums or some such like Dieron did?

I think so. Even though they weren't mentioned in canon does not mean we can't say they existed. Wink


Quote from: Takiro on April 24, 2009, 10:17:47 AM
Given the formation of the Gaijin and the Ronin should we training camps recently established on Algedi and Ashio?

Yes, we should mention them.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2010, 09:03:16 PM »
Rainbow 6

Well Benjamin has its proving grounds and isn't Wisdom of the Dragon in the Pesht district?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2010, 09:03:42 PM »
Ice Hellion

I think Kensa Kami would be around (to me this program always looked like the inspiration for the Gunslinger program).

There is a military academy on Benjamin (FM: CD p.45).
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2010, 09:03:59 PM »
Takiro

I'm looking Ice thanks, still can't find anything for Rasalhague. Tongue
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2010, 09:04:23 PM »
Takiro

Your absolutely right Ice, page 45 of FMDC shows the Benjamin Military Academy. I've also found two others tonight but I'm still looking.

HKSB page 175 Rasalhague Military Academy
HKSB page 172 Pesht District Gymnasium
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2010, 09:04:52 PM »
FirstStarLord

Quote from: Takiro on April 24, 2009, 09:44:01 PM
I'm looking Ice thanks, still can't find anything for Rasalhague. Tongue

I doubt Rasalhague ever had any sort of major military academy located within it borders prior to the reclaiming of its independence. Such a school would have ended up the center of pro-independence feelings and military spirit, and that was unacceptable to House Kurita. From what we know of of the Rasalhague Regulars in 3025, they were mostly district natives educated in the "proper" Draconis military tradtion, persumably at schools located in other districts. Not very efficent, but the nature of the Combine's rule over Rasalhague made it neccessary in order to keep absolute control.

The Rasalhague Military Academy described in the HKSB does not sound all that important, and Mies Kurita himself was stationed outside of Rasalhague after graduating. That may have been standard procedure for all who trained at the academy.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2010, 09:05:21 PM »
Takiro

Draconis Military Academies
Sun Zhang Mechwarrior Academy (New Samarkand)
Aerospace and Interstellar Institute (Midway)
University of Proserpina (Proserpina)
Pagoda for Luthien Officers (Luthien)
Wisdom of the Dragon (Kagoshima)
Kensai Kami (Bicester?)
Internal Security College (New Samarkand)
Minoru Kurita University (??)
Galedon Military Academy (Matsuida)
Benjamin Military Academy (Benjamin?)
Rasalhague Military Academy (Rasalhague?)
Pesht District Gymnasium (Pesht?)
Proving Grounds (nation wide)
Algedi Training Camps (Algedi)
Ashio Training Camps (Ashio)

Okay I'm still not certain the Sun Tzu School of Combat exists and I don't believe any canon location has ever been established. Not that we need any more Combine military academies but what do you guys think. Does it exist as of 2785? If so where exactly is it located? A clue might be gleaned from reading the 10th Ghost in FMDC, do you think the unit is stationed on the academy's world?

Great idea Ice to model the Kensai Kami after the Star League Gunslinger Program. I could certainly see it as a source of inspiration for the Dragon. My only concern is the fluff in FMDC (pg 31) states that Theodore Kurita re-established it on Bicester. To me that implies it could have been located elsewhere before hand. What do you think?

The Minoru Kurita University has only been recently established by the Coordinator in order to train massive amounts of infantry for the coming war. That much we can glean from HKSB page 138 however it doesn't give us a location for this canon fodder factory. Page 52 of FMDC (12th Dieron Regulars) implies that the University fell during the Clan invasion. But where was it exactly?

District Military Academies seem minor compared to the Sun Zhang or other more noted academies but serve a purpose. To my surprise FMDC (page 27) has the Galedon Military Academy located on Matsuida meaning the other District facilities could be on other worlds in their respective regions, hence the question marks. Thoughts? And what is the difference between a Military Academy and a District Gymnasium?

Osaka Fields on Benjamin is one of the largest such facilities in the Draconis Combine but certainly not the only one. FMDC implies these grounds are nation wide and exist for any citizen to prove themselves as a potential member of the DCMS. Sort of like Liao's Regional Training Centers but no really. If you prove your self you get sent off to an academy.

The Algedi and Ashio Training Camps are not official facilities but Terran (CIB) named sites for the large new training fields seen on those planets. We know these are the assembly and headquarters for Operation Khopesh and Katana.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2010, 09:05:41 PM »
Hessian

Quote from: Takiro on April 25, 2009, 01:36:11 AM

Okay I'm still not certain the Sun Tzu School of Combat exists and I don't believe any canon location has ever been established. Not that we need any more Combine military academies but what do you guys think. Does it exist as of 2785? If so where exactly is it located? A clue might be gleaned from reading the 10th Ghost in FMDC, do you think the unit is stationed on the academy's world?


Well, since there is no canon location for the Sun Tzu School of Combat and because it is unknown whether it existed in 2785, I do not think it should be included.
Especially since because of its team-play attitude it is at odds with traditional Combine doctrine(= Samurai ideal).

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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2010, 09:06:26 PM »
Rainbow 6

Could the Sun-Tzu school of combat have been formed by SLDF veterans? The team play mentality would fit.

The Radstadt Academy is mentioned in the original Sorenson's Sabres pack, Daniel Sorenson graduated from there. Also in the BoK novels Tor Miraborg is said to have a Radstadt Academy scar.

Not sure if it mentioned in the new Sabres write up though.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2010, 09:06:45 PM »
Hessian

Quote from: Rainbow 6 on April 24, 2009, 07:58:19 AM
I think the Rasalhague District academy was on Radstadt.

Well, p67 of FM:CS tells us that "the premier Radstadt Academy" was lost during the Clan Invasion, so the Rasalhague District academy might have been on Radstadt. This is the only source I could find however.

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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2010, 09:07:06 PM »
Takiro

Excellent work guys.

Sun Tzu could have been Minoru's idea and Jinjiro probably isn't that high on it but I'm still not entirely sure about including it. Plus still no idea as to its location.

Hmm, could the Rasalhague Military Academy and the Radstadt Academy be one in the same or two different facilities. One in the same would be fine for me, we'll just explain that the District Military Academy is located on Radstadt. Another interesting note perhaps for a chain gang mentality is Radstadt seems to be the site of the Combine's most infamous prison. Think they recruit like the dirty dozen?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2010, 09:07:33 PM »
Ice Hellion

I doubt Rasalhague would really get a Military Academy (too much political troubles).

And for Sun Tzu, the idea of it being founded by SLDF veterans is a good one and this way, we could make it small and not well considered by traditionalists.
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