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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #75 on: February 04, 2010, 09:29:51 PM »

Rainbow 6

The Minoru Kurita university was conquored by the clans so it needs to be on a world they took, maybe Alshain or Irecce?

But Sun Tzu being on New Samarkand has its merrits.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #76 on: February 04, 2010, 09:30:08 PM »

Hessian

Quote from: Rainbow 6 on May 03, 2009, 08:22:15 AM
The Minoru Kurita university was conquored by the clans so it needs to be on a world they took, maybe Alshain or Irecce?

It was? Where does this information come from?

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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #77 on: February 04, 2010, 09:30:30 PM »

Takiro

I hit that back on page 3 of this thread;

The Minoru Kurita University has only been recently established by the Coordinator in order to train massive amounts of infantry for the coming war. That much we can glean from HKSB page 138 however it doesn't give us a location for this canon fodder factory. Page 52 of FMDC (12th Dieron Regulars) implies that the University fell during the Clan invasion. But where was it exactly?

Thanks MechRat, on to the Federated Suns!
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #78 on: February 04, 2010, 09:30:59 PM »

Quote from: Takiro on May 03, 2009, 12:52:17 PM
The Minoru Kurita University has only been recently established by the Coordinator in order to train massive amounts of infantry for the coming war. That much we can glean from HKSB page 138 however it doesn't give us a location for this canon fodder factory. Page 52 of FMDC (12th Dieron Regulars) implies that the University fell during the Clan invasion. But where was it exactly?

That's not how I would read the entry in FM:DC.  It says the infantry regiment was cobbled together from "remnants of several smashed units consisting of graduates from Minoru Kurita University".  If you read the entry for MKU it says the school graduates large numbers of troops but has few alumni since most grads die in their first battle.  So all I get from the 12th DR entry is that survivors from several regiments composed of MKU grads were used to form the 12th DR's infantry support, not that the school was destroyed by the clans.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #79 on: February 04, 2010, 09:31:23 PM »

Takiro

You can read it that way granted but why isn't the MK University featured in FMDC? This fact combined with the 12th DR entry gives me the conclusion that it was on a world conquered by the Clans or possibly part of the FRR.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #80 on: February 04, 2010, 09:31:47 PM »

Quote from: Takiro on May 03, 2009, 02:27:13 PM
You can read it that way granted but why isn't the MK University featured in FMDC? This fact combined with the 12th DR entry gives me the conclusion that it was on a world conquered by the Clans or possibly part of the FRR.

The fact that MKU isn't mentioned in FM:DC's listing of military schools is better evidence that the school was destroyed by the clans- the 12th DR entry really says nothing about the school.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #81 on: February 04, 2010, 09:32:22 PM »

Hessian

Quote from: Takiro on May 03, 2009, 12:52:17 PM

The Minoru Kurita University has only been recently established by the Coordinator in order to train massive amounts of infantry for the coming war. That much we can glean from HKSB page 138 however it doesn't give us a location for this canon fodder factory. Page 52 of FMDC (12th Dieron Regulars) implies that the University fell during the Clan invasion. But where was it exactly?

Thanks MechRat, on to the Federated Suns!

Oh! Wasn't aware of this information.

Ciao
Hessian

P.S: Just remembered that Minoru Kurita University is (still or again?) around in the Dark Age,though Pilot card 037 also doesn't mention where it is located.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #82 on: February 04, 2010, 09:32:46 PM »

Takiro

Oh well, thanks anyway for the Dark Age info. Wink
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #83 on: February 04, 2010, 09:33:02 PM »

Rainbow 6

Quote from: Hessian on May 03, 2009, 03:58:39 PM
P.S: Just remembered that Minoru Kurita University is (still or again?) around in the Dark Age,though Pilot card 037 also doesn't mention where it is located.


is it still training infantry or other fields as well?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #84 on: February 04, 2010, 09:33:18 PM »

From Merc Guild
1st Sun Zhang Cadre existed prior to SW p. 78
1st & 2nd Proserpina Hussars fought on Marduk in 2787 P. 180
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #85 on: February 04, 2010, 09:33:42 PM »

Ice Hellion

I just found on the Classic BattleTech Forum that the Luthien scenario pack features a group of 8 DCMS units called the Luthien Defence Regiments.

Do we have them included somewhere?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #86 on: February 04, 2010, 09:34:05 PM »

Takiro

I have it Ice. Those units would be considered Militia not Line forces.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #87 on: February 04, 2010, 09:34:28 PM »

Ice Hellian

I just wanted to be sure.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #88 on: June 20, 2010, 04:48:01 PM »

Well as I was searching for more info I found some new contradictions on BattleTechWiki. Apparently there is a Battlecorps story entitled Broken Blade. Set in 2787 the Draconis Combine launches a major assault (Operation Broken Blade) on Hesperus II in an attempt to destroy the Lyran Commonwealth's ability to manufacture war materials. Cool got no problem with that - all canon but here are the units involved.

    * 18th Algedi Regulars
    * 5th Sword of Light
    * 8th Sword of Light

Now the Algedi Regulars have a bunch of implications the most obvious being that it was the fifth district during the Star League era which kills my whole idea.

Perhaps even more significant is the 5th Sword of Light which is stated to have been created in 2796 - source Sorenson's Sabers. I guess they could have been destroyed then recreated.

 ???

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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #89 on: June 20, 2010, 07:10:57 PM »

I have not read Broken Blade so I can't say what is in the story...

As for the Sword of Light- we spent a lot of time figuring them out- on the one hand we had a hard limit of no more then 5 regiments at any given time, on the other we had a lot of times where it looked like there could be 6 or more regiments in service.  Can we have the 5th destroyed in 2787 and then rebuilt as a new regiment in 2796?- we could.  But which regiment are we disbanding from the 2785 roster we developed?  On the other hand we can say that Broken Blade was in error (truthfully I doubt the author looked that closely at the SOL as we did when picking numbers) and keep what we have.  I am inclined to keep what we have and if questioned we just say that there was a contradiction and we went with what we felt was the best solution.

(FYI the BT wiki says the SOL was originally 12 regiments and reduced to 5 during the SWs.  There is no reference cited so I question the accuracy of this)

As for the Algedi Regulars - there are a few solutions.  IIRC we have two DCMS strike forces- one heading for Dieron and one for Vega- the first to succeed becomes the HQ for the new District- well we can keep that - maybe the current ruler pissed off Minoru or doublecrossed him or what ever and is going to be replaced.  

We can create the Algedi Regulars by taking a few regiments from the Militias- maybe the Algedi Regulars are only 8-10 regiments, despite being in such an important location, they were not expanded in 2752 due to questions of loyalty.
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