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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #90 on: February 05, 2010, 10:23:22 PM »
Takiro

I just think it makes since according to the historical record. The Allisons were founding members of the FWL along with the Mariks and Selajs. Their death in combat would be worthy of remembrance by the Mariks the only remaining founding family. And yes, New Olympia is in Marik space but the facility in question is a Federal (League wide) institution. Why else would you name the premier academy after the Allison family before their death in 2845. Is my reasoning off here??
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #91 on: February 05, 2010, 10:23:43 PM »
FirstStarLord

Quote from: Takiro on June 20, 2009, 02:34:49 AM
Orloff Military Academy – OMA (Vanra)

Vanra was still a part of the Capellan Confederation during the Star League, and was conquered by the Free Worlds League during the 1st SW. Orloff only had two worlds in 2785: Kievanur and Semenyih.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #92 on: February 05, 2010, 10:24:10 PM »
Takiro

For canon you are correct FirstStarLord. On the whole we agree with much of the map work done by Oystein but we did modify the maps to suit our vision of the BT universe. If I remember correctly it didn't make sense to us for Orloff to gain its independence from Oriente without its major worlds. So we gave them Varna and Carbonis I believe. There are other map contradictions between BTSD and CBT like the entire Kurita-Davion border for example. Again our research came to different conclusions then the canon PTB so we changed it.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #93 on: February 05, 2010, 10:24:29 PM »
FirstStarLord

Okay, I was not aware of that. I found it a little strange myself that a tiny two world province could became a major source of troops for the FWLM, so your views have merit.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #94 on: February 05, 2010, 10:24:46 PM »
Takiro

Yeah it was strange to use as well. I have to do more work and reasoning for another revision to our existing Fanmap which I'm sad to say is still not perfected. Alot was glossed over by TPTB to say the least.

How does the Temple of Martial Disciplines strike you for Abbey's military academy? Tried to work in the Temple angle somehow to account for the name Templars.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #95 on: February 05, 2010, 10:25:03 PM »
Hessian

Quote from: Takiro on June 21, 2009, 04:18:59 AM
How does the Temple of Martial Disciplines strike you for Abbey's military academy? Tried to work in the Temple angle somehow to account for the name Templars.

Sounds good to me and indeed conveys the temple angle.

Ciao
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« Reply #96 on: February 05, 2010, 10:25:25 PM »
Takiro

Okay we've got 13 different academies set for the FWLM circa 2785. The following 11 are all set;

Aitutaki Academy (Regulas)
Athene Combat School – ACS (Atreus)
Atreus Officer Training College (Atreus)
Bolan Military Academy (Bolan)
Humphreys Training Academy (Kanata)
Kalidasa Defense Academy (Kalidasa)
Kara Harp Okulu (Ayn Tarma)
Princefield Military Academy (Oriente)
Orloff Military Academy – OMA (Vanra)
Temple of Martial Disciplines (Maxwell)
Private Military Academies -PMAs (Various)

Ironically it is the big League Academies that need renaming if you've been following the thread. I've surmised that both institutions were renamed during the Succession War. Building on the fact that Lloyd
Marik-Stanley is a known Succession War era figure and the Aerospace School was likely renamed after his death in 2889, I think the same was done to the Mechwarrior Institute after the Allison family annihilation in 2845.

Allison Mechwarrior Institute - OMI (New Olympia)
Lloyd Marik-Stanley Aerospace School – LMS (New Olympia)

So what I'm saying is both the above facilities had different names in 2785. Fairly generic names could include Free Worlds League, Federal, Olympia, the actual planetary location of the academies (i'll look that up in HMSB). Irose found indications that LMS was called the Institute as well (FM FWL) and I'd like to go with Naval over aerospace especially given the time period. Thoughts?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #97 on: February 05, 2010, 10:28:48 PM »
Quote from: Takiro on June 21, 2009, 04:00:41 AM
For canon you are correct FirstStarLord. On the whole we agree with much of the map work done by Oystein but we did modify the maps to suit our vision of the BT universe. If I remember correctly it didn't make sense to us for Orloff to gain its independence from Oriente without its major worlds. So we gave them Varna and Carbonis I believe.

The long and short of it is that in the House Liao SB there is a solitary throwaway mentions of the FWL capturing Vanra during the early years of the 1st SW.  But when you look at everything else about Orloff-that it has long been the homeworld of the Orloff familty, the description in HB:FWL which implies that Vanra was part of Oriente when the Orloffs invoked Camlann V. FWL and broke away, and other bits it made more sense to have Vanra as part of the FWL at the time of the 1st SW. While I prefer to avoid changing things from Canon- in this case it made more sense to ignore a throwaway line in the House Liao book (the line was "Marik Militia Regiments backed by Smithson's Chinese Bandits, handed Lady Barbara a string of stunning defeats as they successively occupied El Giza, Mosiro, Vanra & Carbonis" p. 47), rather then come up with a convoluted answer to explain the contradictions in half a dozen different sources.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #98 on: February 05, 2010, 10:30:39 PM »
Rainbow 6

How about for the federal academies:-

Free Worlds MechWarrior Institute
Free Worlds AeroSpace & Naval Institute.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #99 on: February 05, 2010, 10:30:59 PM »
Ice Hellion

Or just Federal ... Academy.

Quote from: Takiro on June 21, 2009, 12:34:58 AM
Ib]Private Military Academies[/b]
PMAs incorporate the liaise-faire philosophy of the Free Worlds League at its very best, and as some critics would say its very worst.

I guess you meant laissez-faire  Roll Eyes

Quote from: Takiro on June 21, 2009, 12:34:58 AM
The federal government long ago decided to distant itself from these facilities. Aside from some basic regulation to insure safety Parliament has steered clear of the PMAs.

Perhaps a little more control is necessary, otherwise you might have rebels all over the place.
What about a "high" fee for having the right to be open?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #100 on: February 05, 2010, 10:31:21 PM »
Takiro
Yeah still trying to decide on the Free Worlds League Institutes Huh

Quote from: Ice Hellion on June 21, 2009, 04:45:00 PM
I guess you meant laissez-faire  Roll Eyes

In response to that let me again paraphrase Frank Drebin "Unfortunately I don't speak French, but I do kiss that way." Tongue
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #101 on: February 05, 2010, 10:31:39 PM »
Takiro

Quote from: Takiro on June 21, 2009, 08:12:49 PM
Yeah still trying to decide on the Free Worlds League Institutes Huh

Little more research leads me to propose three possible solutions in addition to what is already out there.

1. Geographic
Allison – outside the city of Darienbad
LMS – in the New Greenland Mountains

2. Historic
After the fall of the Terran Alliance, the population formed three republics, Olympica, Kasnov, and New Greenland, which immediately went to war with each other. In 2265, the latter two accepted Alonzo Marik's proposal to join the fledgling Marik Commonwealth. The ruling D'Andre family of Olympica, however, declined the Marik's overtures. With the aid of a naval contingent from Regulus (which was contending with the Marik's over spheres of influence), Olympica managed to secure recognition as an independent state - a status it retains to this day.

3. Merger
Interesting if they are both named Institute could there have been only one administrative facility at this time?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #102 on: February 05, 2010, 10:32:00 PM »
Takiro

So how about the Darienbad MechWarrior Institute and the New Greenland Naval Institute? Either that or we do a Free Worlds / League / (New) Olympia(n) / Federal theme in front of these. So fill in the blank with your favorite I say! Grin

_________ MechWarrior Institute
_________ Naval Institute
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #103 on: February 05, 2010, 10:32:21 PM »
Hessian

Quote from: Takiro on June 22, 2009, 01:19:42 AM
3. Merger
Interesting if they are both named Institute could there have been only one administrative facility at this time?

Quote from: Takiro on June 22, 2009, 03:46:05 PM
So how about the Darienbad MechWarrior Institute and the New Greenland Naval Institute? Either that or we do a Free Worlds / League / (New) Olympia(n) / Federal theme in front of these. So fill in the blank with your favorite I say! Grin

_________ MechWarrior Institute
_________ Naval Institute

Well, if i recall correctly, the FWL tends to prefer the Free Worlds part over the League part when naming its institutions(e.g. the Free Worlds Technical Institute, Free Worlds Guards, Free Worlds Legionnaires...), so for me Free Worlds (MechWarrior/Naval) Institute sounds good.

But since both are located on New Olympia I can easily imagine a single, unified Free Worlds Military Institute(with two campuses, one specializing in training MechWarriors, the other in training Naval Personnel) just as Takiro suggested in his earlier post, partially quoted above.
Such a single, unified Institute is in my opinion very plausible.

Just my two € cents...


Ciao
Hessian



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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 notes
« Reply #104 on: February 05, 2010, 10:32:43 PM »
Takiro

I'm leaning that way Hessian. Free Worlds Military Institute on New Olympia with two campus at Darienbad  and New Greenland.
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