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I guess we could cut Arcturan Guards as part of their "role" has been reduced upon further review and not many of their units have specifics.

Arcturan Guards (20 regiments)
Overview: Initially an armor and infantry force established in 2341 to defend the first Lyran capital the Arcturan Guard drew its membership directly from the residents of that world. However, their role soon changed as Arcturus steadily declined in prominence following the government’s move to Tharkad in 2407. Today only a quarter of their forces come from Arcturus via official mandate. Following the Lyran Civil War the Guard became the unofficial unit of the Tamar Pact which the planet was originally a part of. Following the disbandment of the old Tamar military apparatus many natives began requesting billets here. While much has changed since that time, the introduction of the BattleMech for instance, the Guard still remains a premier formation in the Commonwealth military. Since its foundation the unit has seen service in every conflict and contributed significantly to the defense of the nation.
Inspiration: Established canon formation, see HSSB and FM LA
Child Units: 1st Arcturan Guard (?), 2nd Arcturan Guard (?), 3rd Arcturan Guard (?), 4th Arcturan Guard (?), 5th Arcturan Guard (?), 6th Arcturan Guard (?), 7th Arcturan Guard (?), 8th Arcturan Guard (?), 9th Arcturan Guard (?), 10th Arcturan Guard (?), 11th Arcturan Guard (The Golden Lions), 12th Arcturan Guard (?), 13th Arcturan Guard (?), 14th Arcturan Guard (?), 15th Arcturan Guard (Stavlos Tigers), 16th Arcturan Guard (?), 17th Arcturan Guard (Kezla Rams), 18th Arcturan Guard (?), 19th Arcturan Guard (Puma), 20th Arcturan Guard (White Bears of Uther) [two nicknames will be the Arcturan Northern Nomads and Tharkan Woodsmen see HSSB p. 69 - 23rd Arcturan Guards aka the Frost Giants]

What Arcturan units can we prove exist at this time?

Any other hooks we can replace the loss of Tamar personnel with??

How many should we skim from the Arcturan Guard and the Skye Rangers to create the Tamar Jaegers?

Alright how about this. From the Skye Rangers we take three regiments reducing them to an even dozen while the Arcturan Guards give five regiments reducing them to fifteen total. This would free up eight regiments total for the Tamar Jaegers - I think that is good numbers for all those organizations. So here is a revised overall strength for the LCAF circa 2785 based on my executive decision.

LCAF (122 regiments)
Royal Guards (4 regiments)
Lyran Guard (50 regiments)
Arcturan Guards* (15 regiments)
Donegal Guards (20 regiments)
Lyran Regulars (12 regiments)
Skye Rangers* (12 regiments)
Tamar Jaegers* (8 regiments)
Tamar Hussars (1 regiment)

A few more notes on the Jaegers. Their overall size was limited thanks to pressure from the Star League and the Archon's concern for "lashing out without orders". The Jaegers and the Hussars do not get along even though they are from the same region. The Hussars are likely seen as goodie two shoes who lack proper line experiience by the Jaegers who are also viewed dimly by their brethren who consider them loose cannons.

Looks good to me too.

One question we need to answer-
The Tamar Hussars- are we calling them the Hussars or the Tamar Tigers. They were originally the 1st Tamar Hussars, but are regularly referred to in the SBs as the Tamar Tigers.  Is Tamar Tigers just a nickname that became so common it replaced Hussars?

Seems like a good idea to me(the simple solutions are often the best after all )

Ciao
Hessian

Well guys we are still working on Threat Assessments 2785 and thanks to Rainbow 6 we realized that our Lyran summary needed revision. He spotted the 2nd Tamar Jaegers in the short story Tactics of Betrayal which appeared in 25 Years of Art and Fiction. I had planned on introducing the Jagers later (opening stages of the 3rd Succession War) given the canon information that appeared in Camo Specs. However TPTB apparently have retconned them to an earlier date which I had no problem with. Special thanks also goes out to Tokage who is largely responsible for the feel of the Jaegers wish I really ran with. Hope you enjoy these notes. Also Bradshaw redid their insignia awhile back, enjoy!

Tamar Jaegers (8 regiments)
Overview: After the conclusion of the Lyran Civil War (circa 2506) the Commonwealth military established a new 4 regiment unit to represent the Tamar Pact. The restored command focusing on loyalty to House Steiner was named Jaegers in recognition of their newly pledged fealty. The formation has always striven for but never truly attained the martial excellence of their Tamarian forbearers. Even though the LCAF continually pushed the Jaegers to achieve devotion to the Steiners has always eclipsed this long term goal. Efforts to win the Jaegers’ devotion took a twist after the infamous “Day of Rage” which forever shattered their trust in the Archon. Realizing that the soldiers of Tamar might always be hostile to the Steiners the Lyran royal family successfully plotted to out their anger to good use. Hatred of the Draconis Combine and even the Rim Worlds was encouraged by recruiting practices, training methods, extensive propaganda, along with other innovative efforts. Kurita and Amaris were made into easy scapegoats by the Archons who promoted ill will towards their neighbors as a way to distract against domestic discontent. Such hatred fostered a ruthless attitude that soon bought the Jaegers a reputation for brutality. Their hatred of the Dragon is so intense that even Rasalhague natives have come to fear their very approach. These denizens might be sympathetic to Lyran efforts to liberate their worlds from Kurita rule if not for the Jaegers continued cruelty. Second only to their dislike of the Dragon is the Rim Worlds Republic whose homelands they now help occupy. Ill will from the Reunification War and the recent Amaris Coup have given the Jaegers another target for their anger. The Jaegers were a constant irritant to the SLDF who always had to account for their rages. While the command expanded to eight BattleMech regiments during the Star League era further expansion was curtailed by the Steiners who had their reasons to halt said growth. The Jaegers don’t get along with the Tamar Hussars who they view as premadonnas.
Inspiration: Established canon formation, see Tactics of Betrayal and Camo Specs
Child Units: 1st Tamar Jaegers, 2nd Tamar Jaegers, 3rd Tamar Jaegers, 4th Tamar Jaegers, 5th Tamar Jaegers, 6th Tamar Jaegers, 7th Tamar Jaegers, 8th Tamar Jaegers

 

Could you post a link Six? Thanks. Here is the redone Jeagers insignia done by Bradshaw and another version I found long ago on the net. Enjoy!