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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #75 on: February 03, 2010, 08:47:11 AM »
Ice hellion

If we go on with Takiro's explanation, they were on the wrong side two times.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #76 on: February 03, 2010, 08:47:37 AM »
Takiro
How is this for basic notes of the Tamar Tigers.

Tamar Hussars (1 regiment)
Overview: The Hussars are the only noble force in the Lyran Commonwealth, thanks to the unique position of Tamar, who are considered a line unit. The guardians of the Tamar Pact have ancient ties to the region that predate the Lyran nation. The Ducal Guard has always been well equipped first receiving BattleMechs in 2465. With a reputation for martial excellence the Hussars were reformed by the Kelswa family in the wake of the Lyran Civil War (circa 2506). As the only Tamar unit to survive this war their role and notoriety expanded. They saw action in the Reunification War and were involved in Viola Steiner’s “Day of Rage”. It was during the Star League era that the Hussars took on their modern character. As the Archon forbid noble troops from having any heavy ‘Mechs they became experts in swift and mobile warfare. Their flamboyant and daring characters both in and out of battle earned them the moniker, the Tamar Tigers. This well trained light force is currently commanded by Duke Graham Kelswa of Carse.
Inspiration: Established canon formation, see HSSB and FM LA
Child Units: 1st Tamar Hussars (Tamar Tigers)
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #77 on: February 03, 2010, 08:48:09 AM »
Ice Hellion

Quote from: Takiro on August 05, 2009, 08:25:33 PM
The Hussars are the only noble force in the Lyran Commonwealth,
[...] As the Archon forbid noble troops from having any heavy ‘Mechs

Aren't those two sentences in contradiction?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #78 on: February 03, 2010, 08:48:24 AM »
Takiro

No. Huh Granted, it might look a tad bit confusing but remember these are notes for an overview.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2010, 08:48:47 AM »
Quote from: Ice Hellion on August 05, 2009, 08:58:05 PM
Aren't those two sentences in contradiction?

No- the Hussars are the only noble force in the LC and they are limited to mechs of light or medium weight only. 
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2010, 08:49:12 AM »
Ice Hellion

So the interdiction in Heavy 'Mechs would be before the banishment of all Noble Forces?
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2010, 08:49:34 AM »
Quote from: Ice Hellion on August 06, 2009, 06:34:09 PM
So the interdiction in Heavy 'Mechs would be before the banishment of all Noble Forces?

Except that noble forces (despite the best efforts of some Archons) have never been total removed from the LC.  There are several references to them in different books.  (This is common in BT- sweeping generalizations or decrees are presented in the books but then the details contradict those statements).  The best is the Tamar Tigers who are repeatedly said to be the private army of the Duke of Tamar, have existed since the 2400s and continue to exist at the start of the 1st SW.

The Hussars are part of the private army of the Dukes of Tamar. Archon (whoever- I don't have my books in front of me to check) decreed that no private army could deploy heavy or assault mechs- probably due to that LCAF mentality that any mech below 60 tons is just a toy and not worth noticing.  As a result the Tamar Tigers have been forced to use light and medium mechs exclusively.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2010, 08:49:55 AM »
Ice Hellion

I know that the Hussars are said to be a private army but I think they are also mercenaries, meaning that the only way for the Duke of Tamar to find a way around the decree was to use them as mercs...
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #83 on: February 03, 2010, 08:50:24 AM »
Quote from: Ice Hellion on August 08, 2009, 04:16:55 PM
I know that the Hussars are said to be a private army but I think they are also mercenaries, meaning that the only way for the Duke of Tamar to find a way around the decree was to use them as mercs...

That's the Stealthy Tigers- who were formed later in the SW (2874) and were technically mercs who signed a year by year contract with the LCAF so that the duke of Tamar could "legally buy them much heavier mechs then he could for any of his private mech regiments" HSSB p. 66

Interestingly this quote implies the Duke of Tamar had other private mech regiments during the 3rd SW era.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #84 on: February 03, 2010, 08:50:45 AM »
Takiro

Quote from: lrose on August 09, 2009, 01:15:24 AM
Interestingly this quote implies the Duke of Tamar had other private mech regiments during the 3rd SW era.

That would be the Tamar Jaegers whom I would eventually like to utilize especially with the theme that Tokage came up with.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #85 on: February 03, 2010, 08:51:12 AM »
Takiro

Quote from: lrose on April 09, 2009, 04:00:18 PM
General Notes:
2470s/80s mechs were first aquired byLC nobility HSSB p. 25
2506 Robert Steiner orders the Nobilities House troops to be placed under control of the LCAF. HSSB p. 27
Following amendment of 2752 increasing size of the House militaries the LCAF activated 3 mothballed regiments and created 10 new ones. LC Nobility also sought to increase their own private military forces at this time.  HSSB p. 37 HBHS p. 32
During reign of Duke Robert Steiner  private armies limited in the size of the mechs they could field. HSSB p. 45

Quote from: lrose on August 06, 2009, 06:47:25 PM
The Hussars are part of the private army of the Dukes of Tamar. Archon (whoever- I don't have my books in front of me to check) decreed that no private army could deploy heavy or assault mechs- probably due to that LCAF mentality that any mech below 60 tons is just a toy and not worth noticing.  As a result the Tamar Tigers have been forced to use light and medium mechs exclusively.

Hey Irose I was just thinking about the above statement a little more. Do you think that most nobles said the heck with it after the Archon's actions? It would be another explanation why there aren't any more Line Noble Forces in the LCAF.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #86 on: February 03, 2010, 08:51:39 AM »
Quote from: Takiro on August 09, 2009, 02:00:37 PM
Hey Irose I was just thinking about the above statement a little more. Do you think that most nobles said the heck with it after the Archon's actions? It would be another explanation why there aren't any more Line Noble Forces in the LCAF.

That or they did a cost/benefits analysis and decided it wasn't worth the expense.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #87 on: February 03, 2010, 08:52:04 AM »
Rainbow 6

Quote from: lrose on August 09, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
That or they did a cost/benefits analysis and decided it wasn't worth the expense.

If they did i'd assume they'll change there feelings once the succession war kicks off and their property starts getting destroyed.
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #88 on: February 03, 2010, 08:52:34 AM »
ice Hellion


Thanks for the explanations.

Quote from: lrose on August 09, 2009, 04:56:55 PM
That or they did a cost/benefits analysis and decided it wasn't worth the expense.

So Lyran. Tongue
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Re: Threat Assessments 2785 Notes
« Reply #89 on: February 03, 2010, 08:53:09 AM »
Quote from: Rainbow 6 on August 09, 2009, 06:07:02 PM
If they did i'd assume they'll change there feelings once the succession war kicks off and their property starts getting destroyed.

That's why you carry insurance that protects against loss to natural disaster or war....
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