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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2018, 05:24:04 PM »

Interesting Bradshaw, I was thinking there might be other existing AC/20 designs from TRO3025 and 3050 either base models or variants we could go on. The primitive Gunslinger is a nice attempt and builds on the Fafnir prototype but not exactly what I was meaning. Would have liked to have seen it with Jump Jets too.
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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #31 on: April 28, 2018, 09:03:41 PM »

Two questions

1. Would anyone like to try their hand at a Kurita AC/20 carrier? I know the Hunchback is something they will use but is there a uniquely Draconis design out there which they would develop??


Not unique to the DC, but the Victor, Atlas and Charger all fit as Combine mechs.

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2. Any other AC/20 using 'Mechs we are missing we could upgrade? There could be 3025 variants out there I am unaware of.

The only other standard designs from 2750/3025/3050 that have not been done are the Axeman and Cyclops.  You could also have the CN9-AH Centurion and the Marik variant of the Banshee. 
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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2018, 11:16:25 PM »

Two questions

1. Would anyone like to try their hand at a Kurita AC/20 carrier? I know the Hunchback is something they will use but is there a uniquely Draconis design out there which they would develop??

Ah, but what is more of a Draconis iconic design than the Dragon?  Imagine a 5/8 Dragon speeding across the battlefield, but instead of it packing an AC/5 or a PPC, it instead carries an AC/20?  Oh, and we might as well just add a C3 Slave to make sure that it can get the best target numbers even at 9 hexes.

You know, something like THIS:

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Dragon DRG-6N

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3052
Cost: 11,644,480 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,282

Chassis: Unknown Standard
Power Plant: Unknown 300 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous w/ CASE
Armament:
    1  Autocannon/20
    1  LRM-10
    1  Medium Laser
    1  C3 Computer (Slave)
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown

Additional:


================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                6.00
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             300                       9.50
    Walking MP: 5
    Running MP: 8
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             11                        1.00
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 188                 10.50
    Armor Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT, 4 LA, 2 LL, 2 RL
    CASE Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT                                             1.00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           30       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  9         
                                           L/R Torso     14           20       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     10           20       
                                             L/R Leg     14           22       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Autocannon/20                                RA        7         10       14.00
Medium Laser                                 LA        3         1         1.00
LRM-10                                       CT        4         2         5.00
C3 Computer (Slave)                          HD        0         1         1.00
@AC/20 (15)                                  RT        -         3         3.00
@LRM-10 (24)                                 LT        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 8

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 13
5          1       2       1       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: C3S, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, AC 2/2/0, IF 1

Basically, just a -7N with a few differences.  Ferro-fibrous instead of endo-steel (which gives the AC-20 Dragon pretty decent armor protection!!) and the same XL engine (which sucks, but . . . what can you do?).  Single heat sinks, but this Dragon can fire both the AC-20 and Medium Laser in close and remain heat neutral on a walk, while the LRM-10 is for long range engagements.  Head mounted C3 Slave Module and CASE in both torsos.  Twenty-four flights of LRMs for the 10+ hex engagements, while the AC-20 carries three full tons of ammo for 15 bursts!  (More than a 3025 Atlas!!)  Those three tons of ammo also gives the -6N the option of using specialty ammo for one ton and still keeping 10 standard units of fire.

Anyway.  That is what I've got on a spur of the moment thing in response to your question, Takiro.  Hope you like it.

No time for fluff, but feel free to use as you will.  And if anyone else cares to provide fluff . . . well, knock yourselves out!

MA
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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #33 on: April 29, 2018, 06:44:27 AM »

Went to bed last night scanning TRO 3025 and found Cyclops and was thinking about the Dragon. Then masterarminas does that, very nice job! The Dragon variant (any special name suggestions?) makes a ton of sense.

Good suggestions Irose, anyone want to tackle the Cyclops or Marik Banshee?
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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #34 on: April 29, 2018, 11:32:03 AM »

Went to bed last night scanning TRO 3025 and found Cyclops and was thinking about the Dragon. Then masterarminas does that, very nice job! The Dragon variant (any special name suggestions?) makes a ton of sense.

What about Wani? It was the name of a Sea Dragon in the Japanese Mythology, one that was both a shark and a crocodile.

Good suggestions Irose, anyone want to tackle the Cyclops or Marik Banshee?

I will think about it.
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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #35 on: April 29, 2018, 02:50:35 PM »

An upgrade seldom seen do the massive costs involved, the NZ model is an upgrade from the favored Z variant commonly seen across the Draconis space. Replacing its massive Hermes 360 engine with the new XL variant produced on Luthien. This move while expensive drastically cuts down the tonnage allowing for increased armor and weaponry.

As this mech is favored by some of the DCMS regimental commanders, the upgrade was focused on survivability of the pilot and its Tacticon B-2000 Battle Computer something that is unable to be replaced even with the unlocking of the Helm Core. Adding almost 70% more armor along with Cellular Ammunition Storage Equipment the lifespan of the few remaining Cyclops is no longer as endangered.

Mobility is a key aspect of any battle. This variant adds the ability for this design to maneuver on the battlefield greater than any of prior seen versions. Adding both to its ability to leave the battlefield in a pinch or take advantage of it to devastate enemies by tactical movement with its massive Zeus Autocannon.

After these upgrades it left little room for upgrading its firepower. The design has removed the Hovertac SRM-4 with the larger Arrowlite SRM 6 and due to a surplus of Thunderstroke-L LRM-5s produced on Luthien the Delta Dart LRM 10 was removed and replaced with three of the Thunderstrokes.


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Cyclops CP-10-NZ
90 tons
BV: 1,792
Cost: 22,504,930 C-bills

Movement: 4/6/4
Engine: 360 XL
Double Heat Sinks: 11 [22]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 138
Armor: 279/279

Internal Armor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 29 44
Center Torso (rear) 14
Right Torso 19 29
Right Torso (rear) 9
Left Torso 19 29
Left Torso (rear) 9
Right Arm 15 30
Left Arm 15 30
Right Leg 19 38
Left Leg 19 38
Weapons Loc Heat
Medium Laser LA 3
Medium Laser LA 3
AC/20 RA 7
SRM 6 CT 4
LRM 5 LT 2
LRM 5 LT 2
LRM 5 LT 2

Ammo Loc Shots
AC/20 Ammo RT 15
SRM 6 Ammo LT 15
LRM 5 Ammo LT 24

Equipment Loc
CASE RT
CASE LT


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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #36 on: April 29, 2018, 03:04:51 PM »

I look forward to your next entry Ice. I don't know about that name suggestion for the Dragon. I suppose we could just maintain this Dragon (AC/20) against the Grand Dragon in an old versus new design rivalry mirroring Takashi and Theodore.

Interesting I could see this Cyclops and three Victors all with AC/20s making quite a mobile assault lance. Scary!
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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #37 on: April 29, 2018, 05:43:19 PM »

For another iconic DCMS mech you could take a JR7-K remove all the weapons, use an XL engine and Endo Steel to add an AC/20 and 1 ton of ammo

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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #38 on: April 29, 2018, 07:27:07 PM »

Hmm, not sure about that one Irose but how about the Sentinel for another option? I think that is doable for a ComStar option other than the King Crab.
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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #39 on: April 29, 2018, 09:16:55 PM »

For Comstar you have the Shootist

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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #40 on: April 29, 2018, 11:11:42 PM »

Ah yes, forgot about the Shootist.

So on our agenda can still be a Marik Banshee, a Kurita Jenner and a ComStar Sentinel.

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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #41 on: April 30, 2018, 02:04:05 PM »

An upgrade seldom seen do the massive costs involved, the NZ model is an upgrade from the favored Z variant commonly seen across the Draconis space.

Takiro, I have a idea for another Kuritan Cyclops if you accept it
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Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #42 on: April 30, 2018, 02:10:37 PM »

Had an idea for this one but then when trying to right up the fluff I found out that there has never been a 285 engine made. So its just a blueprint that will never see the production line.


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Banshee BNC-3K
95 tons
BV: 1,997
Cost: 9,514,440 C-bills

Movement: 3/5
Engine: 285
Double Heat Sinks: 15 [30]
Gyro: Standard Gyro

Internal: 145
Armor: 280/293
  Internal   Armor
Head 3 9
Center Torso 30 45
Center Torso (rear) 14
Right Torso 20 29
Right Torso (rear) 9
Left Torso 20 29
Left Torso (rear) 9
Right Arm 16 30
Left Arm 16 30
Right Leg 20 38
Left Leg 20 38


Weapons Loc Heat
AC/20 LT 7
SRM 4 CT 3
SRM 4 CT 3
PPC RT 10
PPC RT 10
TAG RA 0
AMS HD 1

Ammo Loc Shots
AC/20 Ammo LT 5
AC/20 Ammo RT 10
SRM 4 Ammo RT 25
AMS Ammo RT 24

Equipment Loc
CASE LT
CASE RT
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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #43 on: April 30, 2018, 02:17:38 PM »

An upgrade seldom seen do the massive costs involved, the NZ model is an upgrade from the favored Z variant commonly seen across the Draconis space.

Takiro, I have a idea for another Kuritan Cyclops if you accept it

Don't let my design stop you. Your fluff is top notch from what I've seen.
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Re: AC/20 BattleMech Design Challenge (circa 3052)
« Reply #44 on: April 30, 2018, 03:23:47 PM »

Had an idea for this one but then when trying to right up the fluff I found out that there has never been a 285 engine made. So its just a blueprint that will never see the production line.

There was one as the BNC-3S uses one. It is a Pitban 285.

Don't let my design stop you. Your fluff is top notch from what I've seen.

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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5
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