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All right here we go. I was going to go with this anyway, but re-reading the decisions thread gave this submission even greater impetus. Je vous présente le nouveau Mongrel avec un nouveau nom

Nimrod

Mass: 45 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Chassis Config: Biped Omnimech
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3070
Cost: 5,442,031 C-Bills
Battle Value: 784

Chassis: Unknown Endo-Steel
Power Plant: Unknown 225 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h (108.0 km/h)
Jump Jets: Unknown
    Jump Capacity: 150 meters
Armor: Unknown Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    14.5 tons of pod space.
Manufacturer: Unknown
    Primary Factory: Unknown
Communications System: Unknown
Targeting and Tracking System: Unknown
Overview:
When the IlKhan announced the Quicksilver Program, one of the first orders he
gave was to halt certain programs that had not yet made it out of the prototype
stage. Clan Diamond Shark's Mongrel program was one of the projects that did
not escape the IlKhan's cuts.


Not wanting to waste the time and effort that the Shark scientist had already
put into the program, they shifted their efforts to adapting the chassis to a
cheaper and lighter powerplant. Using the powerplant found in the binary's
worth of Von Luckner tanks that they had in one of their reserve caches, the
Diamond Shark designers discovered that the new OmniMech actually had an extra
ton of pod space available even with a fixed MASC system and five jump jets.
Not wanting to keep the same name for this slightly revamped OmniMech, the
design team changed the name to Nimrod, named for the hunter of biblical
legend.


While not as maneuvable as the Mongrel, nor as fleet of foot, there is not much
of a difference when the MASC is engaged. Whiletheir need for the Nimrod may
not be as great as that of the Mongrel, it will defintely fill a niche in their touman.
Once enough Nimrods have been built to meet the demands of their touman, the
Diamond Sharks will gladly offer it to any any clan that desires it.


Of the six configurations of this Omni, four are similar to the initial five
created for the Mongrel. The only differences are the new D and Configurations


The Prime differs from the Mongrel's Prime in switching the ER large laser
lasers to a large pulse laser and swapping the six-tubed Streak launcher for an
LRM-10.


The A configuration keeps swaps the matched pair LRM-15s for a brace of Artemis
IV-equipped LRM-10 launchers. The medium pulse laser and the ER small laser are
replaced with a pair of ER medium lasers and an anti-missile system.


The B Configuration is nearly identical to the earlier version, except that it
repalces the ER medium laser with a third medium pulse laser


The C configuration is exactly the same but adds a second ton of ammunition for
the LB 10-X autocannon. This necassary if the Nimrod wishes to surviv for long
on an Inner Sphere battlefield.


The new D configuration features an all energy-based battery of an ER PPC, an
ER large laser and a small pulse laser. An anti-missile system is there to
shrug off any enemy missiles that may come near. This makes the Nimrod free of
any ammunition constraints being placed on it main battery.


The E configuration is all new and is dedicated as a scout and battle armor and
infantry hunter. The active probe and ECM system aid in the scouting mission
while the trinity of pulse lasers backed up by a trio flamers allows to go
after battle armor and conventional infantry. Armored vehicles should also view
this configuration as hazardous to their continued existence. The Streak SRM-2
was added as an additional short-ranged weapon.

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    75 points                2.50
    Internal Locations: 3 LT, 3 RT, 1 RA
Engine:             Fusion Engine                225                      10.00
    Walking MP: 5
    Running MP: 8 (10)
    Jumping MP: 5 Standard
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL                                   2.50
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             10(20)                    0.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3.00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA    R: SH+UA
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 144                  7.50
    Armor Locations: 4 LA, 3 RA

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     14           20       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  7         
                                           L/R Torso     11           15       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  7         
                                             L/R Arm     7            14       
                                             L/R Leg     11           18       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MASC                                         LT        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 28

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 8
6/5j       0       0       0       0      2     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: OMNI, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


================================================================================
Loadout Name: Prime                                          Cost: 6,498,447
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 2,222

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL                                   0.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 2 RT
    CASE Locations: RT                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Large Pulse Laser                            RA        10        2         6.00
2 ER Medium Lasers                           LA        10        2         2.00
LRM-10                                       RT        4         1         2.50
MASC                                         LT        -         2         2.00
ER Medium Laser                              HD        5         1         1.00
@LRM-10 (12)                                 RT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 15

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 22
6/5j       4       4       2       0      2     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 1


================================================================================
Loadout Name: A                                              Cost: 6,830,134
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 1,937

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL                                   0.00
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER Medium Laser                              RA        5         1         1.00
ER Medium Laser                              LA        5         1         1.00
LRM-10                                       RT        4         1         2.50
    Artemis IV FCS                           RT        -         1         1.00
LRM-10                                       LT        4         1         2.50
    Artemis IV FCS                           LT        -         1         1.00
MASC                                         LT        -         2         2.00
Anti-Missile System                          CT        1         1         0.50
@Anti-Missile System (24)                    RT        -         1         1.00
@LRM-10 (Artemis) (24)                       RT        -         2         2.00
@LRM-10 (Artemis) (24)                       LT        -         2         2.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 14

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 19
6/5j       3       3       2       0      2     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, IF 2


================================================================================
Loadout Name: B                                              Cost: 6,252,400
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 1,796

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL                                   0.00
    CASE Locations: RT                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ultra AC/5                                   RA        1         3         7.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           RA        4         1         2.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           LA        4         1         2.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           RT        4         1         2.00
MASC                                         LT        -         2         2.00
ER Small Laser                               CT        2         1         0.50
@Ultra AC/5 (20)                             RT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 18

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 18
6/5j       4       4       1       0      2     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: OMNI, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


================================================================================
Loadout Name: C                                              Cost: 6,685,134
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 1,453

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL                                   0.00
    CASE Locations: LT, RT                                                 0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LB 10-X AC                                   RA        2         5        10.00
ER Medium Laser                              LA        5         1         1.00
Anti-Missile System                          LT        1         1         0.50
MASC                                         LT        -         2         2.00
@LB 10-X (Cluster) (10)                      RT        -         1         1.00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         RT        -         1         1.00
@Anti-Missile System (24)                    LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 16

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 15
6/5j       2       2       1       0      2     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, CASE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA, FLK 1/1/1


================================================================================
Loadout Name: D                                              Cost: 6,681,509
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 2,217

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL                                   0.00
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             12(24)                    2.00
    Heat Sink Locations: 3 RT
    CASE Locations: LT                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ER PPC                                       RA        15        2         6.00
Small Pulse Laser                            RA        2         1         1.00
ER Large Laser                               LA        12        1         4.00
Anti-Missile System                          LT        1         1         0.50
MASC                                         LT        -         2         2.00
@Anti-Missile System (24)                    LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 16

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 22
6/5j       3       3       2       0      2     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: OMNI, AMS, ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


================================================================================
Loadout Name: E                                              Cost: 6,791,166
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-E                         BV2: 1,815

Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Jumping MP: 5  (Standard)
    Jump Jet Locations: 1 CT, 2 LL, 2 RL                                   0.00
    CASE Locations: LT                                                     0.00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA+H    R: SH+UA

Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Large Pulse Laser                            RA        10        2         6.00
Medium Pulse Laser                           RA        4         1         2.00
Flamer                                       RA        3         1         0.50
2 Flamers                                    LA        6         2         1.00
Small Pulse Laser                            LA        2         1         1.00
Streak SRM-2                                 LT        2         1         1.00
MASC                                         LT        -         2         2.00
ECM Suite                                    CT        0         1         1.00
Active Probe                                 HD        0         1         1.00
@Streak SRM-2 (50)                           LT        -         1         1.00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 15

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      5    Points: 18
6/5j       3       2       1       0      2     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: OMNI, ECM, PRB, RCN, CASE, HT1, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA


Well a lot of stuff to comment on today and may I say I love all the input. Good, bad or otherwise keep expressing your opinions. They are invaluable aids to this setting and I really appreciate all the participation. Thank you.

JP I did read your Icepick/ Way Seeker this morning and admittedly was a tired little boy. So I read it again with your addendum. Now I do not want to pass judgment on your submission yet because there are four more days to go in this contest. However, I will again comment on the Allard which should serve as a template on how to break the rules and nearly win. That being said both you and Dragon Cat have made your case for a slower design here.

The speed minimum are there as a general guideline for the four separate weight classes. Light (6/9), Medium (5/8), Heavy (4/6), and Assault (3/5). I think that these “limits” are slow by Clan standards (circa 3052) and we have run into them so often because of all these Zombies. If you read the Kingfisher (a 4/6 assault Zombie!) fluff it standard fusion engines on Clan OmniMechs are rare. So this whole Program does run in opposition to establish Clan doctrine.

The fact that there are multiple entries which are slower then the requested design speed says a lot. In fact I have been thinking of a larger design to come being pretty darn slow but the pod space would be amazing and quite possibly justifiable. So your submissions are not done in vain and go beyond food for thought. Going against the grain like your doing is gutsy and stimulates ideas on my end as well as yours. That being said I do not think dropping the movement minimum from the criteria would be productive.

I believe in being up front and telling you what performance I expect here but do not hesitate to tell me you have a better and why. In some ways doing so makes your fluff writing easier and more enjoyable. I also would not worry about making “clone designs” as I am looking for good stories to weave into this setting and great names.

For Master Arminas I also say that I can not comment as of yet too much on your fluff but the fact that things are getting contentious is awesome. This is the Clans and conflict is their way. Hearing about differing design philosophies, intense competition and internal squabbling is music to my ears. Very Clan like.

Seven submissions so far hopefully we will get more. Come on LordGrayson! I am considering allowing more entries as this contest has bought forward some really good ideas. Good job gang!!

Fire Grenadier (Shadow Wraith)
Sand Devil (Master Arminas)
Way Seeker (JP Arbiter)
Knave (Drakensis)
Sabre Kraken (Fitzgerald)
Trickster (Dragon Cat)
Nimrod (Abele)

Well I wake up this morning and what do I find? Five new submissions but three clearly fall outside the design criteria.

The Sabre Kraken is plain whacky and while I like it cause it is so far outside the norm - it will not even qualify for the contest given its highly Level 3 nature. Sorry fitz, I'll give it an evaluation but tripods ain't sniffing this challenge.

I regret nothing!!!


More seriously I'll be leaving the Sabre Kraken up as one of the Boondoggles of the Quicksilver program

Nor should you, the Sabre Kraken and the Dingo (JPArbiter) are full of Society goodness. Something I will be dealing with in Clarion Call soon. 

Seriously fitz did you follow Tripod design rules or follow standard Biped engineering and call it a tripod??

I just used SSW.    Its an option at higher tech levels

Quote from: Takiro on July 21, 2014, 09:36:36 PM

Nor should you, the Sabre Kraken and the Dingo (JPArbiter) are full of Society goodness. Something I will be dealing with in Clarion Call soon. 

Seriously fitz did you follow Tripod design rules or follow standard Biped engineering and call it a tripod??

I just used SSW.    Its an option at higher tech levels

Really? I'll have check on the latest update

for the record, Icepick was a placeholder name as I was too tired, the proper name is way seeker (cause Pathfinder did not sound Scorpion-ey enough)

I was thinking Wayfinder myself but as you know JP the name is a big part. Ice pick didn't sound clan like to me. Perhaps an inner sphere name

Cool, cool. Still three whole days to tinker or submit your entry folks.