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Star League in Exile Eternal
« on: June 30, 2024, 04:53:11 PM »

We know what happened to Kerensky and his descendants in canon but let’s for the sake of this discussion say that the Clans don’t happen. Instead, in this thought experiment I'd like to discuss what a Star League in Exile (or the Exodus Planetary Council if you prefer) would look like and what changes might have to occur in order for it to endure. The following is what I think but I'll leave it up to you to expound on your vision.

An aging Protector Aleksandr Kerensky acts to establish a new Unity Council early in the 2790s as old allegiances began to revive. This successor to the High Council represents each of the old Great Houses which once constituted the great Star League. Carefully selecting candidates who best represent a united Star League in Exile government he successfully co-opts much of the growing opposition. Kerensky and his heirs naturally will serve as representatives of the Terran Hegemony on the Council as well as the Protector. The only other two candidates I have in mind are Raymond Sainze for the Draconis Combine and Kailen Steiner for the Lyran Commonwealth. Sainze is the epitome of the samurai culture while Steiner is the closest thing to a legitimate heir to the Lyran throne. I don't have faithful representatives of the Federated Suns, Capellan Confederation, and Free Worlds League yet but I will list them as they come to mind and I'm open to suggestions. Also, I'd like to add a seventh member of the Council representing Spacers and the Periphery. I figure these Outsiders who live on the fringes of the Star League in Exile would make some sense, but I see resistance here. Distrust of the Periphery probably still remains high and I'd imagine few of their denizens actually made the journey with the SLDF so their numbers would be quite low. However, I feel like there was always a movement to add a Council seat to represent them. Spacers give us that chance as they are a nomadic lot and could perhaps be led by a figure like Janos Grec to establish together with any loyal Periphery denizen a new Councilor.

Secondly, after the establishment of the Council I'd hit on military reformation. It is said that the SLDF was reduced from 2 million and half a million (one-quarter). I still have to do the math on this first great demobilization which of course makes sense but it gave me an idea especially with all the discontent it created. If we establish a new 13 to 12 ratio from that original 25% we can get a get number for 'House militias' to defend and police their own populace. Each 'House' would receive 2% of the League's overall defense budget to fill out their own army and navy as they see fit. Again, the aim of this would be to mollify critics who could be remilitarized in 'House units'.

Third, get an effort going to keep an eye of the InnerSphere in order to report back on the Succession Wars. Be a boon for propaganda if you could show your populace the mess that they've left behind.

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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2024, 01:23:17 PM »

This is interesting, are you going be adding more to this?
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2024, 06:02:41 AM »

Absolutely Wrangler, but I am hoping to get some input. Any ideas??
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2024, 06:45:11 PM »

Not sure if they would try to emulate the Great Houses

What made the Star League really was its Army and Navy (the Defence Force itself) its what the Clans drew down on when they formed

I think a "Star League in Exile" would perhaps be split along army/navy lines they were mostly armed forces that left along with their families and some other civilians

What destroyed Aleksandr Kerensky's initial landing force was a split along house lines (they held onto their heritage), much like the Republic when the Blackout happened people fell on what was familiar.

I think the only thing that would keep a "Star League In Exile" together would be to drive down on what united them their Defence Force and the common goal they all held
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Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2024, 08:44:54 AM »

Alot of good points DC, how would you address the old heritages of the Exiles?
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2024, 02:32:11 AM »

I'm not sure the problem is their loyalties are to the Defence Force but they cannot all stay enlisted, they need people to build homes and sow fields that sudden change in lifestyle is what causes the tensions
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Really, as long as there is an unbroken line of people calling themselves "Clan Nova Cat," it doesn't really matter to me if they're still using Iron Wombs or not. They may be dead as a faction, but as a people they still exist. It's not uncommon in the real world, after all.

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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2024, 10:59:54 PM »

No doubt that is why I was going to explore targeted de and remobilization as well as the installation of a new High Council to mollify these malcontents.
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2024, 04:42:49 PM »

My guess is that you should take some governmental similarities from the United Citizen's Federation of Starship Troopers.
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2024, 06:07:54 AM »

My guess is that you should take some governmental similarities from the United Citizen's Federation of Starship Troopers.
That is a great idea!
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2024, 09:40:27 AM »

I looked up your suggestion.

https://starshiptroopers.fandom.com/wiki/United_Citizen_Federation

I'd almost call it a Stratocracy (Military government) which does fit the SLDF in exile. Granting Citizenship to all those that served in the SLDF and hence a voice in a new government would mollify some concerns I'd wager.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratocracy

What would you call this new government? The New Star Alliance??

Would Kerensky want his successor elected by a Council? A Legacy provision might do for exemplary service. You wouldn't have any other aspects of Neo Feudalism from the InnerSphere?
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2024, 05:20:50 PM »

Can't see it being called anything but the Star League in Exile to be honest.

Oh and for the Periphery representative to the new High Council i'd recommend Phillip Drummond, former officer in the Amaris Dragoons who switched loyalty to General Kerensky and believes in the ideals of the SLDF.
« Last Edit: July 19, 2024, 05:25:51 PM by Rainbow 6 »
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2024, 12:14:57 AM »

Excellent idea, thanks R6!
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2024, 04:59:56 AM »

No worries Tak, interested to see where you take this.
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2024, 09:15:04 PM »

Well, if we added a dash of both ideas somewhat Star League and somewhat Martial Federation? I see legacy meaning a lot to the Exiles and it would make sense establishing a link to the past but also enshrining military service as a pillar of this new society. 
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Re: Star League in Exile Eternal
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2024, 04:24:59 AM »

Makes sense, not sure about the eternal exile though, could see the SLDF returning to the inner sphere at some point, still with the clan tech I guess, but using standard SLDF organisation.
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