Takiro Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #45 on: November 12, 2008, 07:14:04 PM »I did the numbers somewhere and yes Terra does have an impressive industry. The Royal Sovereign class alone is impressive. I can't wait to detail the how if I ever get time.
CJvR Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #46 on: November 13, 2008, 02:16:14 AM »Quote from: Takiro on November 12, 2008, 07:14:04 PM
The Royal Sovereign class alone is impressive.
Indeed they are, pity they were unable to put FCL armor on them, but I suspect many units will soon run around with patchwork and standard armorplating as the war drag on.
Knightmare Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #47 on: November 13, 2008, 10:31:31 PM »Such is life on the frontline... Shocked
Takiro Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #48 on: November 15, 2008, 05:50:38 PM »Hey folks I wanted to keep us on topic here, so I split off CJvR excellent suggestion. Please post errors in TRO2800 from now on. Wink
Link below for those interested.
http://www.btshattereddawn.com/forums/index.php?topic=888.0CJvR Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #49 on: November 16, 2008, 02:05:26 PM »The LCN Gauntlet class refit adds 6000 tons of cargo from the HS conversion but that tonnage is missing from the stats.
Also you might consider mentioning 2787 in the LCN intro since that was the year the Lyran yards died on a scale not repeated in any other SS. Yeah the others are catching up it has taken them a decade to catch up to the carnage that hit the Lyrans. It is a quite spectacular event that deserves mentioning IMO.
Also IIRC the only yard building the TR Defender class cruisers, Kresters O'Niel yards, was described as producing them in "the early years of the SW" and that yard was disabled in 2786 (from the Titan text) - probably not enough time for even the Terran shipyards to build 25 more ships. Adding a production line to the Blue Nose's Lowell yards could easy plug that little inconsistency.
CJvR Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #50 on: November 24, 2008, 02:23:56 PM »The ships with different weapons configurations like the Chesterton or the Audacious should probably have some mark in the stats as to what weaponry belongs on what variant.
lrose Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #51 on: November 24, 2008, 04:30:31 PM »Quote from: CJvR on November 16, 2008, 02:05:26 PM
Also IIRC the only yard building the TR Defender class cruisers, Kresters O'Niel yards, was described as producing them in "the early years of the SW" and that yard was disabled in 2786 (from the Titan text) - probably not enough time for even the Terran shipyards to build 25 more ships. Adding a production line to the Blue Nose's Lowell yards could easy plug that little inconsistency.
Funny about that...I wouldn't say it's an error....
Actually we have a precedent from TR2750 that the SLDF built 400 Sovetskii Soyuz in 8 years- which is 25 per year or it could be something else....
CJvR Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #52 on: November 24, 2008, 04:46:56 PM »True, but that was with the SL up and running at full speed with everything working at 100%. That the TR would be able to duplicate such a feat is doubtful with it's damaged yards, blasted subcontracters and dried up rawmaterial deliveries.
Indeed we might well ask why have Blue Nose not cranked out the customary 3 BB / year, it wasn't in quite as much crossfire as the Terran yards and should be more intact if we are to go by the pre-war production figures.
lrose Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #53 on: November 24, 2008, 05:20:03 PM »Quote from: CJvR on November 24, 2008, 04:46:56 PM
True, but that was with the SL up and running at full speed with everything working at 100%. That the TR would be able to duplicate such a feat is doubtful with it's damaged yards, blasted subcontracters and dried up rawmaterial deliveries.
Indeed we might well ask why have Blue Nose not cranked out the customary 3 BB / year, it wasn't in quite as much crossfire as the Terran yards and should be more intact if we are to go by the pre-war production figures.
You are making an assumption that the Republic built warships at it's maximum capacity. The Republic may have wanted to build at a slower rate to hide it's true capabilities, making it less of a target. Also keep in mind the warship program was a secret in 2785- Project Quicksilver- the new dropships, was a smoke screen for the warship program. The Republic's production rate may have been more limited by their ability to hide the program then the production capabilities of the yards. The Defender in some ways was easier to hide in plain sight as the Republic could always claim they were salvaged SLDF ships and not productions, the same is not true of the Royal Soverign.
CJvR Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #54 on: November 25, 2008, 01:39:49 AM »Perhaps, but then the Terran yards was the worst choise imaginable for producing allout when the TR had the more remote Titan and Mars facilities available. You could always hide SL designs so why not massproduce them instead if that was the case? Three Big-Macs / year or one R-S every other year...
CJvR Some more nits? « Reply #55 on: November 25, 2008, 01:54:03 AM »
Should the Vulcan and Catalyst be of the same size? The text describes them as having the same identical reactortype. (246)
Also the Cat is 760 meters in length? That is dimensions more fit for a ship twice her mass (249).
The Dewey class Amaris sent to hunt down his renegade October Revolution (253) is named in plural, Sullivans, it is not perhaps wrong but it reads a bit odd in the text.
"Royal Soverigns that the SLDF had order prior to" (267) shouldn't it be "had ordered" or "had on order"?
I will go away now... Smiley
lrose Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #56 on: November 25, 2008, 05:33:04 AM »Quote from: CJvR on November 25, 2008, 01:39:49 AM
Perhaps, but then the Terran yards was the worst choise imaginable for producing allout when the TR had the more remote Titan and Mars facilities available.
Mars and Titan are really not that remote. More importantly the goal of the Republic was to get as many facilities operational as possible, so that they did not have all of their eggs in one basket.
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You could always hide SL designs so why not massproduce them instead if that was the case? Three Big-Macs / year or one R-S every other year...
Because most of the SLDF designs suck. Actually most of the designs the Republic put into service were SLDF designs, mainly ones that entered service just before the Coup. This is more of a quality over quantity thing.
lrose Re: Some more nits? « Reply #57 on: November 25, 2008, 05:39:53 AM »Quote from: CJvR on November 25, 2008, 01:54:03 AM
The Dewey class Amaris sent to hunt down his renegade October Revolution (253) is named in plural, Sullivans, it is not perhaps wrong but it reads a bit odd in the text.
The actual name of the ship is "The Sullivans". The ship is named after 2 US Destroyers of the same name. The ships were named for 5 brothers, the Sullivans, who all died serving on the light cruiser Juneau when it sunk in WW2.
CJvR Re: Fanbook 5 – Technical Readout 2800 « Reply #58 on: November 25, 2008, 05:45:07 AM »Quote from: lrose
Mars and Titan are really not that remote...
Because most of the SLDF designs suck...
They are not orbiting the capital world of the Republic in full view of diplomatic staff and some 10 billion citizens, anyone with a moderatly strong telescope or perhaps even good eyesight would be able to tell roughly what was going on. In distances Mars and Titan isn't that remote but in terms of actual visibility they are way off from Terra.
Most SL designs do indeed suck, but the Black Lion, Luxor and Big-Mac are acceptable and they were in production.
Sorry but I dont think cranking out 25 CLEs from the Terran yards in roughly two years is a very realistic proposition, works better if either the damage to the yards didn't halt production (of that line at least) or if a second yard also produced the type.
CJvR Re: Some more nits? « Reply #59 on: November 25, 2008, 05:48:03 AM »Quote from: lrose
The actual name of the ship is "The Sullivans". The ship is named after 2 US Destroyers of the same name. The ships were named for 5 brothers, the Sullivans, who all died serving on the light cruiser Juneau when it sunk in WW2.
Ouch! All five of them lost on one ship...
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