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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #15 on: July 14, 2010, 05:26:34 AM »
Quote from: Takiro on July 13, 2010, 10:38:48 PM
The Republic has a long history of individual freedom even though Amaris tried to shape this to his will.

Perhaps but they followed their crazy ruler all the way down.

Quote from: Takiro on July 13, 2010, 10:38:48 PM
I doubt the League would have tolerated slavery especially in the Periphery where it would want to show its best PR.

Call them prisoners then.
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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #16 on: July 14, 2010, 01:58:36 PM »
Quote from: lrose on July 13, 2010, 10:22:34 PM
More likely Amaris didn't care- he had the Terran Hegemony, crown jewel of the Star League- what did he need with the RWR.  Also he expected the Periphery mech divisions to defend the RWR- but by and large they didn't

You are right but I still think he didn't think the Star League Defence Forces would fight for a non-existent State.
And the not showing up of the Periphery Divisions just give more potential to my desperate measures idea (or so I think).

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The RWR has a long history of political unrest and revolts- during the Reunification War the Amaris' remained loyal to the SL- it was the citizens of the RWR who refused to join the SL and fought against  the SLDF, not the government of the RWR.   For that reason I can't see the government relying on slaves or anyone who isn't 100% loyal to the Amaris family.

Ok, no slaves but they had to find the manpower somewhere.
I think prisoners could work.

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I don't think Selim would have the resources to pull this off.  What Amaris left in the RWR was largely the units he considered disloyal/unreliable and the dregs of the Rim Worlds military. The best units were deployed in the TH.

I might have gone a little too far and will probably decrease the numbers.
I know the best units were deployed in the Terran Hegemony, leaving only second hands units and equipments in the Rim Worlds Republic.
This is why I wanted to give them old and barely functional weapons.
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2010, 01:54:39 PM »
Any other idea/comment?
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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2010, 02:35:15 PM »
What about changing the background story and making them members of the Rim Republican Army
 that enlisted "en masse" to fight against Amaris once the Rim Worlds Republic had been freed?
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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2010, 03:30:06 PM »
Well how about they are reactionary traditionalists who want to turn the clock back to a better time. They hate all those new Terran settlers including that bum Amaris. If we talk BTSD perhaps they despise Project Phoenix for looting their homes. Basically they want a return to the Rim Worlds before Amaris. On top of that they could have been political prisoners of the Amaris regime. The Star League would want them locked up as bad as Amaris.
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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2010, 02:27:59 PM »
Quote from: Takiro on July 18, 2010, 03:30:06 PM
Well how about they are reactionary traditionalists who want to turn the clock back to a better time. They hate all those new Terran settlers including that bum Amaris. If we talk BTSD perhaps they despise Project Phoenix for looting their homes. Basically they want a return to the Rim Worlds before Amaris. On top of that they could have been political prisoners of the Amaris regime. The Star League would want them locked up as bad as Amaris.

You are hard on me :P
Any evidence of that?
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
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Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2010, 05:21:02 PM »
See the Reunification War. You know what the Republican cause did in the Rim Worlds. You also know about the Terran colonization of the Rim - see JHS Terra for that. So put the two together. Amaris is gonna have his own political enemies who want him and his Star League allies out. So they'd be in prison. Regent Mohammed Selim faced with a massive Star League invasion needs all the warriors he can get. Maybe Amaris gives him "do what you must to defend the Rim Worlds". Selim then turns that in turn "Chain Gang" like prison unit (see Dirty Dozen) figuring these guys hate the SL so much I'll let them at em. Unleashing this force might not go as expected and they probably have the worst equipment possible.
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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2010, 02:03:37 PM »
But they would not cooperate with the Terran Republic afterwards (which was my original idea).

But then you gave me another idea  :P
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2010, 05:18:27 PM »
Perhaps an alliance of convenience but nothing more than that.
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Re: Sympathy for the devil
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2010, 02:46:25 PM »
Quote from: Takiro on July 20, 2010, 05:18:27 PM
Perhaps an alliance of convenience but nothing more than that.

This is why I am thinking about something else right now.
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5
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