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I felt the same way but I wasn't the boss.

Well our efforts were done on a blanker canvas. Broad strokes had been laid out in the original House books which we did our best to follow. Then for good or bad new canon came in and displaced a lot of work. I feel the problem is that some of the new canon is useful and tells a great story so I'd love to use it. BUT then there is things I don't agree with like warship numbers during the Star League.

What is the dividing line?

It depends where/when you put the dividing line between your alternate universe and the official one.
Or if you manage to find a reason for those numbers being wrong.

If you choose what the dividing was what would it be??

Well, how about this....

If we start out with Reunification War Supplemental we can lay the foundation for change that takes us up until the Succession Wars.

Translation large fleets, detail smaller changes, and justify little differences till we make a major break in the 1st Succession War.

This also gives us the opportunity to start with a topic (the Periphery) which Irose got screwed on.

I've been thinking about this and looking at some of the material and if you don't mind the TC becoming a super power I am okay with that.  FR2765:P is so broken its not even funny.

I mean the OA has multiple shipyards building Pintos.(even though EVERY other source says the OWA never had warships).  Or the TC has a shipyard in the Hyades Cluster capable of building warships.  And according to all the source material Kerensky never attacked the Cluster so it should be intact in 2785. Or the massive production capability of TTI in 2765, when previous sources hint it was formed after the fall of the SL and made it sound like it was slowly building up, not declining.

Or the mistakes in units- the Taurian Velites existing publicly in 2765 when Periphery 1e says they formed during the Uprisings.  Or the Concordat Commandos who according to FM:P were all but disbanded after the RW and then reformed after the fall of the SL. 

Or in the MOC- the Royal Guard were disbanded after the RW and not reformed until 2786.  Or the Canopian Fusiliers who were all secretly reformed just prior to the Uprisings.  Same for the Volunteers. 


The look at the FS book- where are the Franklin Gorgons, The Avalon Borderers and the other units referenced in various books.


Honestly I am proud of what we did and the work we did to research existing material and make it work.  This later stuff, for all the claims of fact checking, just doesn't work much for me there are retcons which don't make sense.

Would the League's monopoly on necessary spare parts really cripple the Concordat and other Periphery powers?? Or require their industry to switch over to civilian production during wartime (aka the Succession Wars)??

I will go back to what I have always said about the Periphery - going all the way back to Periphery 1e and why I like it so much.  The introduction of the book says the periphery is all a bunch of pirates or people struggling to survive. And then you read each entry- the TC is a well educated industrial powerhouse, the MOC has some of the most advanced medtech, the OWA is some of the best aerospace pilots anywhere.  Even Oberon was striving towards some level of legitimacy.  Sure there are failed states and pirates but the generalizations of the periphery are just wrong.

Then FM:P and 1st SW went even further.  Periphery 1e talked about how the SL controlled spare parts for Fusion Plants and Water Purification systems- so that no system could stockpile more then a 6 month supply.  Yet we don't see that in 1st SW.  The info on page 107 shows that the MOC did not lose a single world during the 1st SW.  The Concordat only lost 3 worlds, 1 to famine, 1 to disease and 1 to other disasters.  Where's all the worlds dying off due to lack of water and power? You can't tell me that every world in the MOC was a natural paradise that needed no terraforming.  So I will argue that the TC and the MOC were not falling apart during the 1st SW era (and even the 2nd SW era).

Then we have the Concordat Aerospace Limited Shipyards at Taurus.  It survived the uprisings- since it is listed as a casualty of the 1st SW.  But who destroyed it?  How did someone get into the Hyades Cluster to take it out?  Why is this event (which should be a big deal- I mean they invaded the cluster- something the SLDF had a hard time doing) totally ignored?

When I first starting writing up the Periphery states for Shattered Dawn I wanted to make them stronger, but I tried to be reasonable- based on FR:P 2765 and 1s SW I was too conservative. 

This is during the 1st SW, Comstar was not heavily involved in the Periphery at that time (if they even had a presence there at all) and before Holy Shroud.