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Dragon Cat I'm gonna have to DQ your entry as it mounts only a single C3 Master. I'm looking for a Company Commander not just a Lance CO. Also remember this is a 3050 era challenge so no Heavy Ferro-Fibrous.

Don't like being disqualified, the first one is the Platoon commander, this is the Company commander

Katana C32

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 0
Cost: 15,526,750 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,204

Power Plant: Nissan 225 Fusion XL Engine
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor: Durallex Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1 Shigunga LRM-15 w/ Artemis IV FCS
    2 Bulldog Large Lasers
    2 Draconis Arms Rocket Launcher 15s
    1 Bulldog Machine Gun
    1 MacArthur Anti-Missile System
    1 Luthien Armour Works C3 Computer (Master)
    1 Unknown CASE
    1  C3 Computer (Master)
Manufacturer: New Samarkand Metals/Bulldog Enterprises
    Primary Factory: Macksburg
Communications System: Scarborough Talky-2
Targeting and Tracking System: Scarborough Tracky-1

Overview:
The introduction of specialized armoured fighting vehicles into the DCMS in the
early 3060s brought a whole new weapon to the defence and offence of the
Draconis Combine.  Immediately however it was clear that the Katana a fire
support Heavy Vehicle was the prefect candidate for a new C3 variant.


Capabilities:
Keeping the same basic chassis of the Katana Tank the new variant continues to
use the Quad-tracks pioneered with the original vehicle.  Wired into this
chassis is a pair of C3 Master units allowing the vehicle that allows the
vehicle to coordinate a full company's worth of units.  With the ability to
command the designers also added a CASE system to protect the ammo bin and 9
tons of a new heavier compound of Ferro-Fibrous Armour plate.


Unlike the original Katana which had a standard engine the new vehicle mounted
a 225 Extra-light Fusion Engine.  This continued to allow the design to take
advantage of the heat sinks mounted there which helped keep the Bulldog large
lasers cool.


Supporting these weapons a single Shiguga fifteen-tube Long Range Missile
Launchers supported by Artemis IV FCS systems.  The Artemis makes the weapons
far more deadly than before.  These weapons are supported by three tons of
ammunition allowing them to fire continuously.  Supporting these weapons at
medium range are a pair of fifteen tube Rocket Launchers nowhere near as
effective or accurate as the LRM launcher these weapons provide one-shot
saturation firepower as an enemy approaches.


For point defence a machine gun allows the tank to defeat infantry that get too
close while an Anti-missile system cuts down on the missile hits against the
vehicle.



Battle History:
None recorded


Deployment:
The Katana has served on every border of the Combine often refitted with a C3
system to fit other newer units.  The new C3 variant is expected to fit into
these formations as a command vehicle.  The Ryuken and Ghost Regiments are
especially looking forward to this new vehicle.


Variants:
A Variant exists that has a single C3 Computer instead carrying two LRM-15
Launchers.  As a platoon command vehicle these units are seen supporting the
Company command variant in commanding support units.


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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                7.50
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             225                       7.50
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             16                        6.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 197                 11.00

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     46       
                                          Left/Right   39/39       
                                              Turret     43       
                                                Rear     30       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
Anti-Missile System                          FR        1         1         0.50
2 Large Lasers                               T         16        2        10.00
LRM-15                                       T         5         1         7.00
    Artemis IV FCS                           T         -         0         1.00
2 Rocket Launcher 15s                        T         8         2         2.00
2 C3 Computer (Master)s                      BD        0         2        10.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@Anti-Missile System (24)                    BD        -         0         2.00
@LRM-15 (Artemis) (24)                       BD        -         0         3.00
@MG (1/2) (100)                              BD        -         0         0.50

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 12
3          3       3       2       0      3     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: AMS, C3M, TAG, CASE, MHQ10, IF 1



Hey gang, a minor fluff change to the Diasho I'm gonna implement is changing the manufacturer to Bulldog Enterprises on Proserpina. For this reasons some component names will also change and in the future you'll see why this happened.

Please finish up your design submissions by the 14th of October so I can close the contest.

I will be using the Diasho certainly but I'm also looking for alternatives who might be more cost effective, speed, or some other factor on these command tanks. Translations multiple winners are possible. 

Sorry to let you down but my idea was too much out of the box.

Takiro, does this involve playtesting the designs?  Say, in MegaMek or somesuch?

Cent13

Well another Design Contest has come and gone. Here is my take on it. Again I’d like to thank Dragon Cat and Centurion13 for getting this concept started in the first place. On with the reviews!

Kappa Command Helicopter (JPArtiber)
An interesting out of the box idea certainly but I wanted a tank for this challenge and well this ain’t it. I just might come back to a swarm of attack choppers for the Dragon as such a company sized lightning attack might prove to be devastating. One wonders what kind of weaponry the other Helicopters might carry to create something potent.

Oni Command Tank (JPArtiber)
Our biggest submission at 100 tons but I just wanted 2 C3 Masters! Would have liked to see what you could have done with the ten extra tons. Plus the MRMs are slightly ahead of their time. Was looking for the early 3050s. Liked the inclusion of the ECM as I said before for the command tank. So in spite of her plodding speed I still wonder what this tank could have been. Any possibility of a redesign?

Oyabun Command Tank (Epoch Rooster)
This 80 ton entry was a pleasant surprise to me. Instead of going with tracks ER went with wheels on his Command Vehicle that was an enlarged Tokugawa. The concept of an urban command tank really excited me and your design looks spot on. However as I pointed out to JP the MRM along with the Streak SRM 6 are a little ahead of the curve. Despite the fact you had no fluff the name Oyabun was enough to trigger a vision of what the writing could be. I'm thinking that this vehicle is used by the Ghost Regiments and perhaps the Yakuza even had a hand in design. Nice job! Second place overall and I look forward to a redesign.

Katana 2C3 Tank (Dragon Cat)
Thanks for cleaning up your entry to fit the time period better. Still don’t care for the Rocket Launchers. Yeah you can make an argument that they were around at the time but not for me in the early 3050s. You XLed the engine to get the weight for the C3 Masters and overall she is nice design but for some reason it doesn’t grab me. The fluff is uninspired and it doesn’t have that certain something. Looking for that hook which grabs me but don’t see it here. So a bronze medal goes out to you DC. Good try.

Minamoto Mobile Command Tank (Centurion13)
Finally we come to the tracked 65 ton mobile command tank offered by Centurion13 and at 5/8 she can really move. Great hook and it really fills a niche for lighter more mobile armor commands. Its arsenal composed of an ER Large and SRM racks isn’t overly devastating but combined with its speed makes for one neat little design. The Guardian ECM complements the dual C3 Masters nicely. Plus I liked the name you came up with. Looking forward to some fluff as you are the winner of this little contest. Reposted your entry below. Congrats!

Type/Model:    Minamoto
Tech:          Inner Sphere / 3055
Config:        Tracked Vehicle
Rules:         Level 2, Standard design

Mass:          65 tons
Power Plant:   325 VOX XL Fusion
Cruise Speed:  54.0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86.4 km/h
Armor Type:    Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:     
  1 ER Large Laser
  2 C³ Master Computers
  1 Guardian ECM
  2 Anti-Missile Systems
  2 SRM 4s
Manufacturer:  (Unknown)
  Location:    (Unknown)
Communications System:  (Unknown)
Targeting & Tracking System:  (Unknown)

--------------------------------------------------------
Type/Model:    Minamoto
Mass:          65 tons

Equipment:                                 Items    Mass
Int. Struct.:  35 pts Standard               0      6.50
Engine:        325 XL Fusion                 2     12.00
Shielding & Transmission Equipment:          0      6.00
    Cruise MP:   5
     Flank MP:   8
Heat Sinks:     12 Single                    0      2.00
Cockpit & Controls:                          0      3.50
Crew: 5 Members                              0       .00
Turret Equipment:                            0      1.00
Armor Factor:  179 pts Ferro-Fibrous         2     10.00

                          Internal    Armor
                          Structure   Value
   Front:                     7         55
   Left / Right Sides:    7      31/31
   Rear:                      7         22
   Turret:                    7         40

Weapons and Equipment    Loc  Heat  Ammo   Items    Mass
--------------------------------------------------------
1 ER Large Laser         Turret  12          1      5.00
2 C³ Master Computers    Body     0          2     10.00
1 Guardian ECM           Body     0          1      1.50
2 Anti-Missile Systems   Turret   0   12     3      2.00
2 SRM 4s                 Turret   0   25     3      5.00
1 C.A.S.E. Equipment     Body                1       .50
--------------------------------------------------------
TOTALS:                          12         15     65.00
Items & Tons Left:                           3       .00

Calculated Factors:
Total Cost:        16,073,200 C-Bills
Battle Value 2:    1,126 (old BV = 683)
I will also be using my Daisho in the Clarion Call setting along with the Minamoto. Further contests may well follow and I’d really like to see the Oyabun in particular get fixed, fluffed, and it too may find a spot in the DCMS. Thanks again everyone for your participation!! See ya next time.

Here is the rework of the Oyabun. I hope you like it/

Oyabun Command Tank Redux

Mass: 80 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3063
Cost: 7,467,167 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,175

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  PPC
    1  LRM-10 w/ Artemis IV FCS
    1  SRM-6 w/ Artemis IV FCS
    2  Machine Guns
    1  Anti-Missile System
    2  C3 Computer (Master)s
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

Overview:
Based loosely on the Tokugawa Heavy and sharing the same powerplant as its
parent vehicle, the Oyabun Command Tank is an attempt to give the DCMS a
vehicle to coordinate an armored unit in combat. It is fitted with twin C3
Master computers that will allow it to control a company-sized network in
combat.

While intended to be a command vehicle, the Oyabun is not without means to
engage in heavy combat. Featuring a wide variety of weapons systems, the Oyabun
is capable of engaing the enemy at a wide variety of ranges. At long range it
features a standard particle projection cannon combined with Artemis
IV-equipped ten-tube long range missile system with two tons of ammunition. 
For shorter ranges, an Artemis-IV equipped six-tube short range missle launcher
combined with a brace of machine guns handle the short range load. Originally,
a trio of Streak SRM-2 launchers were fitted, but continued ammunition feed
issues necessitated a change to a single launcher.

For added protection, an anti-missile system was added to protect the Oyabun
from incoming missile fire. The Oyabun is protected by a staggering
sixteen-and-a-half tons of standard armor plate, more than the larger Behemoth
tank used by DCMS tank crews.

Originally shunned by many among the higher echelons of the DCMS, the Oyabun
has gained some favor after its initial deployment with troops of Tenth Ghost
Regiment in a series of training exercises against units stationed in the
Benjamin. Using combined arms companies in urban environments, the Ghosts
handedly defeated elements of the 3rd and 15th Benjamin Regulars in separtate
engagements over a period of six months.

Upon hearing these results, several commanders from the othe Ghost Regiments
have put in requests for the Oyabun to assigned to their armored units.


Variants:
Though not yet seen on the battlefield, there are two variants of the Oyabun in
the testing phase. The first is similar in armament to Tokugawa as it features
the same LB 10-X autocannon, short-range missile and dual medium laser loadout.
The exceptions are the medium lasers are standards, not pulses, and the lasers
are now mounted in the turret while the SRM is now hull-mounted.


The second variant is designed for close-in combat and replaces the
hull-mounted LRM launcher with a brace of four-tube SRM launchers.
Additionally, the PPC has been swapped out with a large pulse laser.


A third variant featuring an upgrade of the PPC to the extended range model was
discarded as it would hav lead to the removal of one of the C3 units to add
additional heat sinks to compensate for the increased heat load.

Ideally, should the first two variants past testing, they would make up one third of
all Oyabuns produced and that number would be equally split between the two
variants (each would make up one-sixth of all Oyabuns produced);


================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                8.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 264                 16.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     64       
                                          Left/Right   50/50       
                                              Turret     55       
                                                Rear     45       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
LRM-10                                       FR        4         1         5.00
    Artemis IV FCS                           FR        -         0         1.00
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Anti-Missile System                          T         1         1         0.50
SRM-6                                        T         4         1         3.00
    Artemis IV FCS                           T         -         0         1.00
PPC                                          T         10        1         7.00
2 C3 Computer (Master)s                      BD        0         2        10.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@Anti-Missile System (24)                    BD        -         0         2.00
@LRM-10 (Artemis) (24)                       BD        -         0         2.00
@SRM-6 (Artemis) (15)                        BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      9    Points: 12
3          2       2       2       0      4     1   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: AMS, C3M, TAG, CASE, MHQ10, IF 1



LB-X variant

Oyabun Command Tank Redux LB-X variant

Mass: 80 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3063
Cost: 7,491,167 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,147

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  LB 10-X AC
    1  SRM-6 w/ Artemis IV FCS
    2  Medium Lasers
    2  Machine Guns
    1  Anti-Missile System
    2  C3 Computer (Master)s
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

Overview:


================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                8.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 264                 16.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     64       
                                          Left/Right   50/50       
                                              Turret     55       
                                                Rear     45       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
SRM-6                                        FR        4         1         3.00
    Artemis IV FCS                           FR        -         0         1.00
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Anti-Missile System                          T         1         1         0.50
LB 10-X AC                                   T         2         1        11.00
2 Medium Lasers                              T         6         2         2.00
2 C3 Computer (Master)s                      BD        0         2        10.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@Anti-Missile System (24)                    BD        -         0         2.00
@LB 10-X (Cluster) (10)                      BD        -         0         1.00
@LB 10-X (Slug) (10)                         BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-6 (Artemis) (15)                        BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      9    Points: 11
3          3       3       1       0      4     0   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: AMS, C3M, TAG, CASE, MHQ10, FLK 1/1/1


SRM-variant

Oyabun Command Tank Redux SRM-variant

Mass: 80 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Motive Type: Wheeled
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E
Production Year: 3063
Cost: 7,588,167 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,092

Power Plant:  220 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armor:  Standard Armor
Armament:
    1  Large Pulse Laser
    1  SRM-6 w/ Artemis IV FCS
    2  SRM-4s w/ Artemis IV FCS
    2  Machine Guns
    1  Anti-Missile System
    2  C3 Computer (Master)s
    1 Unknown CASE
Manufacturer:
    Primary Factory:
Communications System:
Targeting and Tracking System:

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                8.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                220                      15.00
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    1.50
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 264                 16.50

                                                      Armor     
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     64       
                                          Left/Right   50/50       
                                              Turret     55       
                                                Rear     45       

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Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass 
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Machine Gun                                  FR        0         1         0.50
2 SRM-4s                                     FR        6         2         4.00
    Artemis IV FCS                           FR        -         0         2.00
(R) Machine Gun                              RR        0         1         0.50
Anti-Missile System                          T         1         1         0.50
SRM-6                                        T         4         1         3.00
    Artemis IV FCS                           T         -         0         1.00
Large Pulse Laser                            T         10        1         7.00
2 C3 Computer (Master)s                      BD        0         2        10.00
CASE                                         BD        -         1         0.50
@MG (200)                                    BD        -         0         1.00
@Anti-Missile System (24)                    BD        -         0         2.00
@SRM-6 (Artemis) (15)                        BD        -         0         1.00
@SRM-4 (Artemis) (50)                        BD        -         0         2.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      9    Points: 11
3          3       2       0       0      4     2   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: AMS, C3M, TAG, CASE, MHQ10


Looking forward to it Cent13, congrats!

Great job Epoch Rooster the Oyabun specs out nicely now and the fluff is solid. Consider yourself a winner as I'm going to use her as well.

Yikes Dragon Cat, your harsh. I look forward to your next attempt and hope those scientists do better. For their own sake.