Topic: Design Challenge "Merkava IIC" (Read 3596 times)

JPArbiter · « **on:** November 27, 2012, 12:26:38 PM »

So with Record Sheets 3067u being released we got a kick ass version of the Enyo called the Sholef, which continues in Clan Hells Horses going Jewish on us.

so I want to take this to the next easy step. the SLDF Merkava Tank is already kinda cool, lets Clan that Puppy up. the goal is to create a Second Line vehicle that functions the way the Enyo does for Front line forces. (as a Main Battle Tank)

Rules are as such

1) no XL Fusion engines. as a post jihad design the need to get vehicles out in quantity is a must, XL engines prevent that. Fuel Cell, Fusion, Fission, ICE are acceptable.

2) Weight variance can be + or - 20 tons

3) we are going to XTRO this, advanced tech is encouraged, particularly X Tech that gets made "Tournament Legal" post 3090

4) Be creative, the most effective design will not necessarily win, the most clever design will.

Design submission deadline is 02/24/2013. Winners will get a Free copy of the Duke Playtest Rules, and MW Tactics / MWO Poster.

JPArbiter · « **Reply #1 on:** January 07, 2013, 04:49:25 PM »

wow, nothing kiddos?

masterarminas · « **Reply #2 on:** January 07, 2013, 08:24:27 PM »

Okay, weight dropped to 70-tons, for a 5-ton difference. This version uses 1 ton more armor than the original (11 vs 10), but all of that is Ferro-lamellar. She carries a bit weaker protection on the front and sides (2 points ea) but stronger on the turret . . . and the FL armor absorbs and dissipates part of the damage. So overall, I'd say she's ahead on protection. Same speed (4/6) which good for a tracked tank of this size.

The original carried an AC-5 (20 shots), an LRM-15 (16 shots), an SRM-4 (25 shots), and two MGs (200 shots). Except for 1 MG, everything was in the turret. Clan Hell's Horses removed the AC-5 and LRM-15, replacing both of them with a HAG-30. Better range, same crit seeking as the LRMs, excellent AAA capabilities. Four tons of ammo gives 16 shots. AND 50% greater potential damage the LRM-15/AC-5 combination with no minimum range. Instead of the SRM-4, this model carries a Streak SRM-6 with one ton of ammunition (15 shots). Replacing the two MGs are a single AP Gauss in the turret, with a ton of ammo for 20 shots. Really, with the CHH Elemental and conventional infantry, they've got PLENTY of anti-personnel firepower; this tank can get by with a little bit less.

Only experimental equipment is the FL armor, but it is a capable and potentially deadly tank. And at just over 4.3 million C-Bills and a BV of 1,361, not all that bad on the wallet.

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Merkava Mk. IX (IIC) 

Mass: 70 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 3090
Cost: 4,319,333 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,361

Power Plant:  280 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Lamellor
Armament:
    1  HAG-30
    1  Streak SRM-6
    1  AP Gauss Rifle
Manufacturer: 
    Primary Factory: 
Communications System: 
Targeting and Tracking System: 

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      35 points                7.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                280                      24.00
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         3.50
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Armor:              Ferro-Lamellor               AV - 154                 11.00

                                                      Armor      
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     36        
                                          Left/Right   30/30        
                                              Turret     36        
                                                Rear     22        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
HAG-30                                       T         6         1        13.00
AP Gauss Rifle                               T         1         1         0.50
Streak SRM-6                                 T         4         1         3.00
@AP Gauss Rifle (40)                         BD        -         0         1.00
@HAG-30 (16)                                 BD        -         0         4.00
@Streak SRM-6 (15)                           BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 14
4          4       4       2       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: CASE, FLK 2/2/2

That is my take.

MA

drakensis · « **Reply #3 on:** January 08, 2013, 05:39:04 AM »

Looks reasonable, MA. However here's an alternative take:

The Merkava Mk.C carries not one turret but two: a low-slung forward turret houses the long range armament: a Large Pulse Laser and a Streak LRM-20 (with 18 loads). This primary armament provides excellent long range reach but cannot fire backwards, limiting its use as on the retreat (something that may not have occurred to aggressive Clan tank crews).

The aft turret, elevated for full 360 degree fire, houses short-range weapons: a Streak SRM-4 and a pair of anti-personnel gauss rifles. Thus the Merkava can easily engage dismounted elementals, infantry and light vehicles with secondary armament while maintaining long range fire against heavier targets.

Although the tank uses advanced, lightweight alloys in its armour, there has been no upgrade to its resilience: in fact, the rear armour is believed to have marginally inferior protection to the Mk VIII that this upgrade is based upon. However the Merkava Mk C does boast advanced ECM - something of increasing importance on the modern battlefield.

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Merkava Mk. C

Mass: 75 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: X/X-X-X
Production Year: 3079
Cost: 6,261,375 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1,527

Power Plant:  300 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 43.2 km/h
Flanking Speed: 64.8 km/h
Armor:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Streak LRM-20
    1  Large Pulse Laser
    1  Streak SRM-4
    2  AP Gauss Rifles
    1 Unknown CASE
    1  Angel ECM
Manufacturer: 
    Primary Factory: 
Communications System: 
Targeting and Tracking System: 

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      48 points                7.50
Engine:             Fusion Engine                300                      28.50
    Cruise MP:  4
    Flank MP:   6
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             10                        0.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.00
Rear Turret:                                                               0.50
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 119                  6.50

                                                      Armor      
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     32        
                                          Left/Right   32/32        
                                              Turret     0         
                                                Rear     23        
                                         Rear Turret     0         

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Streak SRM-4                                 RT        3         1         2.00
2 AP Gauss Rifles                            RT        2         2         1.00
Large Pulse Laser                            T         10        1         6.00
Streak LRM-20                                T         6         1        10.00
CASE                                         BD        -         0         0.00
Angel ECM                                    BD        0         1         2.00
@AP Gauss Rifle (40)                         BD        -         0         1.00
@Streak LRM-20 (18)                          BD        -         0         3.00
@Streak SRM-4 (25)                           BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      4    Points: 15
4          3       3       2       0      3     2   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: CASE, AECM

Dragon Cat · « **Reply #4 on:** January 08, 2013, 09:47:37 AM »

I'll throw in my Kerenskys

Hell's Horses Intelligence Report

Clan Hell's Horses doesn't just want to bring back a Star League Legend but also create something that could rival Clan Wolf's Carnivore they also didn't want another 75 ton tank since they already had the Athena Heavy Tank. To do this they upped the tonnage to 80 tons which also resulted in a drop in speed to a max speed of 54kph.

Given the Hell's Horse like of advanced vehicles they chose to spend no expense on their new Assault Tank. First sinking a newly developed Rotary AC5 and Streak LRM-20 into the turrets as its main hitting weapons these weapons invoking thoughts of the original's AC-5 and LRM-15. Continuing to try and mimic the original design the Hell's Horses added an AP Gauss Rifle into both the turret and at the front of the Tank.

This is where the similarities end however, first flanking each side of Rotary Autocannon are advanced Improved Heavy Medium Lasers with infinite these weapons are more than just secondary weapons capable of matching Inner Sphere PPCs for firepower if not range. The Advanced tech does not end there with an Angel ECM Suite providing a superior electronic defence to the Clan Wolf Carnivore. Finally echoing the Athena tank before it an Advanced Targeting Computer makes the Autocannon, lasers and AP Gauss rifles even more accurate.

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Merkava C

Mass: 80 tons
Tech Base: Clan
Motive Type: Tracked
Rules Level: Experimental Tech
Era: Dark Ages
Tech Rating/Era Availability: F/X-X-F
Production Year: 0
Cost: 6,990,900 C-Bills
Battle Value: 2,010

Power Plant:  240 Fusion Engine
Cruise Speed: 32.4 km/h
Flanking Speed: 54.0 km/h
Armour:  Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    1  Rotary AC/5
    1  Streak LRM-20
    2  Imp. Hvy Medium Lasers
    2  AP Gauss Rifles
    1  Angel ECM
    1 Unknown Targeting Computer
Manufacturer: 
    Primary Factory: 
Communications System: 
Targeting and Tracking System: 

================================================================================
Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Internal Structure: Standard                      40 points                8.00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                240                      17.50
    Cruise MP:  3
    Flank MP:   5
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             14                        4.00
Control Equipment:                                                         4.00
Lift Equipment:                                                            0.00
Turret:                                                                    2.50
Armour:             Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 192                 10.00

                                                      Armour      
                                                      Factor     
                                               Front     40        
                                          Left/Right   40/40        
                                              Turret     41        
                                                Rear     31        

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat     Spaces     Mass  
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Angel ECM                                    FR        0         1         2.00
AP Gauss Rifle                               FR        1         1         0.50
Rotary AC/5                                  T         1         1        10.00
Streak LRM-20                                T         6         1        10.00
AP Gauss Rifle                               T         1         1         0.50
2 Imp. Hvy Medium Lasers                     T         14        2         2.00
Targeting Computer                           BD        -         1         3.00
@Rotary AC/5 (60)                            BD        -         0         3.00
@Streak LRM-20 (12)                          BD        -         0         2.00
@AP Gauss Rifle (40)                         BD        -         0         1.00

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 20
3          5       5       3       0      4     3   Structure:  4
Special Abilities: AECM, CASE

OOC Comment: I think I'll use this in my AU now

CJvR · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2013, 10:21:06 AM »

A complete series of AFVs. MBT, IFV & CFV based on cheap affordable fuelcells.
Skipping the rad-shielding of fusion engines makes fuelcells real competitive on vehicles, only XL engines are truly superior as long as the price is of secondary concern.

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Crescent MBT
Tech: Inner Sphere
Type: Tracked
Mass: 60 tons

Item                           Mass    Slots    
Internal Structure:              6        17    
Turret:                          2         0    
Engine:         240 FuelCell    14         0    
  Cruise:         4
  Flank:          6
Heat Sinks:       1              0         0    
Control Systems:  4 crew         3         0    
Armor:(250 max) 248 Standard    15.5       0    
                    AP    
   Front            67
   Sides           42/42               
   Rear             30
   Turret           67

Weapons                 Loc    Mass       
Gauss Rifle            Turret   15         1    
 Ammo(Gauss) 24                  3         1   
2x LMG                 Turret    1         2   
 Ammo(MG) 100                    0.5       1

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Lanzer IFV
Tech: Inner Sphere
Type: Tracked
Mass: 40 tons

Item                           Mass    Slots    
Internal Structure:              4        13    
Turret:                          1         0     
Engine:         160 FuelCell     7.5       0
  Cruise:         4
  Flank:          6
Heat Sinks:       1              0         0     
Control Systems:  3 crew         2         0     
Armor:(180 max) 176 Standard    11         0     
                    AP    
   Front            44    
   Sides           33/33  
   Rear             22    
   Turret           44    

Weapons                 Loc    Mass       
Rotary AC-2            Turret    8         1  
 Ammo(AC-2) 90                   2         1    
2x RL10                Turret    1         2   
2x LMG                 Turret    1         2   
 Ammo(MG) 100                    0.5       1    
Infantry bay/Cargo     Rear      2         1

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Beduine CFV
Tech: Inner Sphere
Type: Wheeled
Mass: 30 tons

Item                           Mass    Slots    
Internal Structure:              3        11    
Turret:                          1         0    
Engine: SF-20   160 FuelCell     7.5       0    
  Cruise:         6 
  Flank:          9
Heat Sinks:       1              0         0    
Control Systems:  3 crew         1.5       0    
Armor:(145 max) 128              8         0      
                    AP     
   Front            33     
   Sides           22/22   
   Rear             18     
   Turret           33     

Weapons                 Loc    Mass    Slots    
LAC-5                  Turret    5         1
 Ammo(LAC-5) 20                  1         1
2x RL10                Turret    1         2 
LMG                    Turret    0.5       1   
 Ammo(MG) 100                    0.5       1     
Infantry bay/Cargo     Rear      1         1

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