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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2018, 12:41:44 PM »

Take your pick; one; all; or none of these. Really like I said I just think it was they got the drop on all the other clans.

I did read the Belters history its what first got me thinking about this whole thread.

You could also do an ask the Writers over on the main forums. I took a look and no one has. You've got a presence there so they may answer you.
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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2018, 05:35:12 AM »

Just some head canon ideas


With the Bears being generally seen as the cautious and 'camper' Clan, it makes sense that the Bears would basically try and use every resource they could without relying on others.  So when they turned to Asteroid mining they didn't approach perhaps the only experts on it in Clan space, The Free Guilds but instead, opted to do it themselves and threw resources, money and people at the problem until they cracked it and got it working efficiently.

And once they got it working efficiently, they really went into it in a big way, but this took time and effort, the Bears, never eager to rush into a decision took a decade or so to get the whole thing working, and they were not willing to go with 'good enough' they wanted to get it RIGHT.  So whilst they  might have been quietly laughed at behind their backs for 'obviously' wasting resources on such endeavours, when it came into effect the economic boost and the efficiency of their asteroid mining systems, ships etc all gave them a BIG boost, which the other Clans were then scrabbling to keep up with as this obviously works and is worth the investment. 

Problem is, its a civilian thing, the other Clans were mostly too proud to be seen to Trial for something in the industrial sector. So they had to develop it themselves and were playing catch up, and the Bears had the biggest advantage in the area and thus their systems for asteroid mining and processing were far better than the other Clans who then rushed out to use asteroid miners of their own.


Also RE Drones, I'm a bit iffy on if the Clans would use them. They still apparently do a lot of stuff by hand when it comes to manual labour (farming by hand etc)  so I doubt something like the Cargorilla would be used.  BUT, if we made the Clans actually smart, they'd actually work to make their systems more efficient and something like this would almost certinally be used by them (and would be used by the Free Guilds regardless). 

I could even see something like the tether/power lead system used by the EVA's on Cargorilla like drones (which I assume operate like a damn big remote control, kind of like our drones do now rather than using AI etc) to make sure they are very much demilitarized and to stop them from basically going too far or being hijacked. 
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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2018, 07:07:51 AM »

Well I myself am leaning to some sort of specialized space work suit derived from Elemental armor in much the same way that Wolf got it that from the original Goliath Scorpion exoskeleton.

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In 2842 Scorpion scientists developed an enclosed industrial exoskeleton to aid underwater mining efforts on Dagda. Nicknamed "water elementals" by their laborer caste operators, the suits sported monstrously shaped titanium hulls and mounted a large-bore drill and grasping claw. The suits' amplified strength and air filtering capability allowed users to locate and extract minerals from almost every region of Dagda's oceans with relative ease.

Also while Kilbourne Jorgensson came along well after this asteroid innovation whatever it was the tradition of the Bears' Great Work could be an extension of this. Perhaps there was a Khan or great warrior who had this idea long ago and it was their narrow focus on this life work which sprang forth the invention.
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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2018, 07:26:04 AM »


Also RE Drones, I'm a bit iffy on if the Clans would use them. They still apparently do a lot of stuff by hand when it comes to manual labour (farming by hand etc)  so I doubt something like the Cargorilla would be used.  BUT, if we made the Clans actually smart, they'd actually work to make their systems more efficient and something like this would almost certinally be used by them (and would be used by the Free Guilds regardless). 

I could even see something like the tether/power lead system used by the EVA's on Cargorilla like drones (which I assume operate like a damn big remote control, kind of like our drones do now rather than using AI etc) to make sure they are very much demilitarized and to stop them from basically going too far or being hijacked. 

Yea dont think AI

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What he saw was a typical low-G mining operation. Mining robots cut at the asteroid with a series of lasers and diamond bits, while the robots' operators sat at the end of a pressurized tunnel a short distance away, using a control system very similar to a MechWarrior's control panel

Death of Richard Cameron original Star League book
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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2018, 03:46:03 AM »

Simon Cameron was the one who died in a mining 'accident'.

Little Dickie got shot in the face by Amaris.
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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2018, 04:11:49 AM »

Ahh got ya, yeah using them like those mining bots would make sense.  basically a more advanced version of our drone tech now where its a remote control.
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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2018, 08:12:41 AM »

Thanks meant him

While visiting Takiro yesterday i looked through his book betrayal of ideals and for what its worth it does say the clans used at one point AI drones to patrol their ship caches though Wolverine scientist castes easily subverted them, This supports his giving the control of maintaining the caches afterwards to the free guilds and the Ebon keshik.

So they could use AI drones now for civilian work as they dont trust it for military tasks.

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The mothballed fleet was actually stored in a number of different systems, far from jump points. They usually had automated security drones protecting them. There were massive transports and some WarShips that had been demilitarized after the SLDF had arrived at the Pentagon worlds. After the civil war, they had been returned to mothball status, and were off-limits to any Clan without the expressed order from the Grand Council.

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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2018, 08:41:42 AM »

Thanks Bradshaw, good times yesterday. I am work on putting together that yard file we were discussing yesterday.
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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2018, 11:50:00 AM »

Free Guilds exoskeleton - https://imgur.com/gallery/DqzWg4A
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Re: Prospector Mining Ship
« Reply #39 on: October 05, 2018, 12:18:53 PM »

Wonder if that actually has any increased lifting capacity. Looks like it might.
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