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Slayer
« on: February 16, 2020, 08:40:08 AM »

Here is an idea I had for a long time (after seeing the latest Linebacker picture) and I took the time to put it down.

So here are the Slayers.
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Slayer
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2020, 08:40:55 AM »

Depending on the people working on them, things can take a much different direction. For example, the introduction of the Dragon DRG-1N in 2745 did not bother the Star League Defence Forces, which were relying on its more specialised and advanced designs to deal with what the Houses could be throwing against them (and the Dragon for them was a left-over of the competition for a new Shadow Hawk).
However the Amaris Coup would change that. Unable to deploy as many BattleMechs as before and fearing the times to come, General Kerensky ordered different Hegemony companies to start designing new ‘Mechs that would become the first of a new generation aimed at “defeating everything thrown at us”.

One of the companies that received this order was General Systems on Caph, that was recovering from the fights on this world and were trying to bring their production lines of Exterminators back to their full output. From their difficulties with coping with such a “simple” task, the company understood that now was the time to build a lower tech ‘Mech that would later (once supply chains would be fully operational and more advanced components would become once more available) be upgraded to meet the usual Star League Defence Forces standards.

No one is sure why the engineers at General Systems decided to focus on the Dragon. Perhaps because of their closeness to 3 Houses had they selected the iconic ‘Mech that seemed the most dangerous to them or because it lied in the vicinity (in terms of weight) of their own Exterminator, giving them some expertise in this field. Whatever the reasons behind it, they decided to work on the Slayer.

The first prototype was running on the field grounds on the 8th of July 2784 and the design process went through its end with delays due to the different battles involving the Great Houses that took their toll on the engineering teams and on the production facilities. By the end of 2792, a small production line had already been dedicated to the production of the SYR-1 and high hopes were placed on this design by the Armed Forces of the Federated Suns that were under pressure of the Draconis Combine Mustered Soldiery as worlds after worlds were falling to House Kurita.
However only one production run of 24 Slayers were produced before General Systems was destroyed and never rebuilt and was quickly taken by the AFFS that sent them to various Robinson Chevaliers units that were in dire need of reinforcements.

Thanks to its simplicity, the SYR-1 Slayer responded well in the difficult conditions faced by the AFFS as they were trying to stop the Kurita juggernaut.
Its tonnage and speed matched those of the Dragon and it was slightly more armoured than the Kuritan Heavy ‘Mech, ensuring an increased survivability. However, where it shines was in terms of raw firepower and endurance. Its all energy weapons with 2 Large Lasers and 2 Medium ones made it less vulnerable than the Dragon or other designs to ammo explosions and allowed it to stay almost forever on the battlefield. Two points are of note: first, its capacity to fire its main weapons almost without heat problems thanks to its 16 Heat Sinks and second, its rather advanced targeting and communication systems as without access to anything else, General Systems put those of the Exterminator in the Slayer, giving it a slight edge over other models as the years passed.

At the end of the Second Succession Wars, only 12 Slayers survived as no blueprints had been safeguarded from General Systems. They were evenly split in the 3 Robinson Chevaliers surviving regiments. Another interesting feature due to the nature of the Robinson Chevaliers was that once a new ‘MechWarrior in a Slayer had destroyed a Dragon, he/she would christened his/her Slayer for a mythical weapon or slayer of monster.

Over the years, the number of Slayers slowly went down as no new ones were being produced. This changed at the beginning of the 3050s when the Clans returned with their advanced designs and when Luthien Armor Works released the Grand Dragon, a clear improvement over the classical Dragon.
Unwilling to let its “supremacy” slip away, the Armed Forces of the Federated Commonwealth ordered (a bit like the Star League in its last days) to create new designs that would be able to tip the scales of the balance back in favour of the Federated Commonwealth.

General Motors decided to enter the “contest” with like General Systems, “a slayer for both beasts: the hydra of the Clans and the Dragon”. What no one knew was that General Motors had somehow found the original blueprints of the SYR-1 and would be able to be true to its words. This is how the SYR-2 Slayer came into being.
From outside, it just looked like the SYR-1 of old and a bit like the Linebacker later deployed by the Clans but from the inside, it was a totally new ‘Mech with no expenses spared to give the best ‘Mech possible to the AFFC.

Speed was increased to keep pace with the Grand Dragon and the more mobile ‘Mechs deployed by the Clans. This was only made possible through the use of a GM 360XL that the company developed and launched in record time (the only other option would have been to try to find an agreement with Kuritan companies for getting a regular access to the Hermes 360XL, something quite unlikely and that wouldn’t have suited the AFFC).
The internal structure was lightened thanks to the use of Endo-Steel and the armour was increased nearly to the maximum for a 60 tons ‘Mech with 11 tons of Ferro-Fibrous.
The weapons were also upgraded with first the use of systems in use by General Motors and with twin ER PPC replacing the Large Lasers, the twin Medium Lasers remaining where they had been for centuries and the addition of a Small Laser in the back to act as a deterrent against lesser threads like Elementals. To deal with the increased heat production, the 16 Single Heat Sinks were replaced by 16 Double Heat Sinks, making it possible once more for the Slayer to fire its main weapons without much concern about overheating.

By the end of 3052, the final prototype of the SYR-2 was given a go-ahead by the Department of the Quartermaster and a brand new production line was beginning to deliver the new incarnation of the Slayer to the Armed Forces of the Federated Commonwealth.
Quickly after the first ‘Mechs were delivered to front-line units, the Department of the Army and Navy issued a specific regulations forbidding the “I am going to hunt some Heavy ‘Mechs” attitude of some ‘MechWarriors. Officially, this has nothing to do with the Slayer but is more a concern about the psychological boost given to the AFFC by the arrival of so many new BattleMechs. However, some officers have pointed out that this new regulation appeared right after some Slayers were given names of mythical weapons or beast slayers after their first victory over other Heavy ‘Mechs.

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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Slayer
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2020, 08:45:21 AM »

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Slayer SYR-1

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Age of War/Star League
Tech Rating/Era Availability: D/C-E-D-A
Production Year: 2793
Dry Cost: 4 921 600 C-Bills
Total Cost: 4 921 600 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1 349

Chassis: SL Standard Standard
Power Plant: General Motors 300 Fusion Engine
Walking Speed: 54,0 km/h
Maximum Speed: 86,4 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: Fibrolyte Armorscale Standard Armor
Armament:
    2 Achernar Battlemechs/ChisComp 43 Special Large Lasers
    2 Averell/Highpoint Medium Lasers
Manufacturer: General System
    Primary Factory: Caph
Communications System: AR-12 Sheathed Directional Beacon
Targeting and Tracking System: DLK Type Phased Array Sensor System

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Standard                      99 points                6,00
Engine:             Fusion Engine                300                      19,00
    Walking MP: 5
    Running MP: 8
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Single Heat Sink             16                        6,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 2 LT, 2 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               3,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Standard Armor               AV - 176                 11,00

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           25       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  10       
                                           L/R Torso     14           20       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     10           17       
                                             L/R Leg     14           21       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
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Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1,00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1,00
Large Laser                                  RA        8         2         5,00
Large Laser                                  LA        8         2         5,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 39

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      6    Points: 13
5          3       3       0       0      3     0   Structure:  5
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Slayer
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2020, 08:45:42 AM »

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Slayer SYR-2

Mass: 60 tons
Tech Base: Inner Sphere
Chassis Config: Biped
Rules Level: Tournament Legal
Era: Clan Invasion
Tech Rating/Era Availability: E/X-X-E-A
Production Year: 3052
Dry Cost: 13 781 200 C-Bills
Total Cost: 13 781 200 C-Bills
Battle Value: 1 694

Chassis: SL Special Endo-Steel
Power Plant: GM 360 Fusion XL Engine
Walking Speed: 64,8 km/h
Maximum Speed: 97,2 km/h
Jump Jets: None
    Jump Capacity: 0 meters
Armor: StarGuard Ferro Fibrous Ferro-Fibrous
Armament:
    2 Johnston Industries/Johnston High Speed ER PPCs
    2 Magna/Mk II Medium Lasers
    1 Magna/Mk I Small Laser
Manufacturer: General Motors
    Primary Factory: Kathil
Communications System: Dalban Micronics
Targeting and Tracking System: Dalban HiRez

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Equipment           Type                         Rating                   Mass 
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Internal Structure: Endo-Steel                    99 points                3,00
    Internal Locations: 5 LT, 5 RT, 2 LL, 2 RL
Engine:             XL Fusion Engine             360                      16,50
    Walking MP: 6
    Running MP: 9
    Jumping MP: 0
Heat Sinks:         Double Heat Sink             16(32)                    6,00
    Heat Sink Locations: 1 LT, 1 RT
Gyro:               Standard                                               4,00
Cockpit:            Standard                                               3,00
    Actuators:      L: SH+UA+LA    R: SH+UA+LA
Armor:              Ferro-Fibrous                AV - 197                 11,00
    Armor Locations: 2 CT, 6 LA, 6 RA

                                                      Internal       Armor     
                                                      Structure      Factor     
                                                Head     3            9         
                                        Center Torso     20           30       
                                 Center Torso (rear)                  10       
                                           L/R Torso     14           20       
                                    L/R Torso (rear)                  8         
                                             L/R Arm     10           20       
                                             L/R Leg     14           26       

================================================================================
Equipment                                 Location    Heat    Critical    Mass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(R) Small Laser                              HD        1         1         0,50
Medium Laser                                 RT        3         1         1,00
Medium Laser                                 LT        3         1         1,00
ER PPC                                       RA        15        3         7,00
ER PPC                                       LA        15        3         7,00
                                            Free Critical Slots: 0

BattleForce Statistics
MV      S (+0)  M (+2)  L (+4)  E (+6)   Wt.   Ov   Armor:      7    Points: 17
6          3       3       2       0      3     0   Structure:  3
Special Abilities: ENE, SRCH, ES, SEAL, SOA
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Slayer
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2020, 08:49:41 AM »

And you saw that only a few Slayer SYR-1 survived the first two Succession Wars or that the production lines are starting to run again with the SYR-2.

Since they are beginning christened in fire and battle, I let you the possibility if you want to write down one or several 'MechWarriors/'Mechs combo be they in the beginnings or when the production is resumed (even if Takiro agrees in his Salient Horizon universe).

Don't be afraid and let slip the dogs of war!
« Last Edit: February 16, 2020, 08:50:46 AM by Ice Hellion »
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in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Slayer
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2020, 09:28:52 AM »

Wow, what a great concept Ice!

I love it, version one sort of reminds me of a lowtech Penetrator while version two is a whole nother creature.

Definitely calling dibs for Salient Horizons. Take a look at my Martial Accords post for further info. ;)
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Re: Slayer
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2020, 11:08:52 AM »

Like the fluff the One reminds me of Crab I like the Two version better
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Re: Slayer
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2020, 11:16:07 AM »

A heavier Crab is a good comparison as well.
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Re: Slayer
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2020, 01:26:10 PM »

Like the fluff the One reminds me of Crab I like the Two version better

Thanks.
Version 2 is far more advanced and better :P
I never thought of the Crab but it has a Crab feeling to it.

Wow, what a great concept Ice!

I love it, version one sort of reminds me of a lowtech Penetrator while version two is a whole nother creature.

Definitely calling dibs for Salient Horizons. Take a look at my Martial Accords post for further info. ;)

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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Slayer
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2020, 09:29:58 AM »

Only concern I have with the AFFC greenlighting such a SYR-2 upgrade is Robinson's unyeilding hatred of the Draconis Combine which it may foster. It is specifically geared against the Grand Dragon and I doubt Duke Sandoval wouldn't insist on having a few for the Robinson Rangers. Not to mention the concern which the ISF and O5P would have once they found out about it. Sure I see the new press that it is aimed at the Clans but we all know who its original enemy was. This could inflame tensions along the border which is something the Steiner-Davions go out of their way to prevent.

Did any of the SYR-1 Slayers survive the Succession Wars? Or did they go extinct like the Robinson Chevaliers did?

What was the latest Linebacker picture that you saw which inspired this little project??

And you saw that only a few Slayer SYR-1 survived the first two Succession Wars or that the production lines are starting to run again with the SYR-2.

Since they are beginning christened in fire and battle, I let you the possibility if you want to write down one or several 'MechWarriors/'Mechs combo be they in the beginnings or when the production is resumed (even if Takiro agrees in his Salient Horizon universe).

Don't be afraid and let slip the dogs of war!

What were you looking for here Ice? A few fanfics of your creation??
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Re: Slayer
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2020, 04:29:29 PM »

What was the latest Linebacker picture that you saw which inspired this little project??

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/File:3055_Linebacker.jpg

What were you looking for here Ice? A few fanfics of your creation??

To let all of you create a 'MechWarrior or two with the associated Slayer.

Did any of the SYR-1 Slayers survive the Succession Wars? Or did they go extinct like the Robinson Chevaliers did?

I didn't make my mind yet. If there any survivors, there will be really few of them but it is not impossible.

Only concern I have with the AFFC greenlighting such a SYR-2 upgrade is Robinson's unyeilding hatred of the Draconis Combine which it may foster. It is specifically geared against the Grand Dragon and I doubt Duke Sandoval wouldn't insist on having a few for the Robinson Rangers. Not to mention the concern which the ISF and O5P would have once they found out about it. Sure I see the new press that it is aimed at the Clans but we all know who its original enemy was. This could inflame tensions along the border which is something the Steiner-Davions go out of their way to prevent.

I might need to work on that part. Perhaps, shifting the research to before 3050? A pure anti Kuritan 'Mech that due to the advance of the Clans became an anti-Clan one with every unit produced sent to the real front where the "poor Lyran half of the realm is bleeding, left alone by the Davions"?
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"In turn they tested each Clan namesake
in trial against the Ice Hellion's mettle.
Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Slayer
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2020, 08:58:11 PM »

Came up with some rudimentary concepts today, what do you think?

1. Dragonslayer
2. Wyrmslayer
3. Farslayer kills from long range
4. Manslayer female Mechwarrior with quite a kill list
5. Swordslayer enemy of the Sword of Light
6. Kinslayer is a Draconian defector
7. Giantslayer is the killer of assault machines
8. Catslayer hunts down DCMS Panthers
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Re: Slayer
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2020, 03:05:24 PM »

Came up with some rudimentary concepts today, what do you think?

1. Dragonslayer
2. Wyrmslayer
3. Farslayer kills from long range
4. Manslayer female Mechwarrior with quite a kill list
5. Swordslayer enemy of the Sword of Light
6. Kinslayer is a Draconian defector
7. Giantslayer is the killer of assault machines
8. Catslayer hunts down DCMS Panthers

 8)

For Giantslayer, the pilot must be named Gotrek Gurnisson.
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5

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Re: Slayer
« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2020, 07:03:50 PM »

Apparently a Warhammer reference, cool.

Is this the sort of thing you were looking for Ice? I know the Kinslayer is something we've used on an OmniMech but it fits. I was thinking it was a Draconian who served with the SLDF and recognizes Davion as the rightful First Lord. He'd obviously be viewed as a traitor by all loyal Kuritans and I wonder how much he'd be trusted by the Robinson folk??
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Re: Slayer
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2020, 03:43:36 PM »

Apparently a Warhammer reference, cool.

What did you expect with so many Slayers?  8)

Is this the sort of thing you were looking for Ice? I know the Kinslayer is something we've used on an OmniMech but it fits. I was thinking it was a Draconian who served with the SLDF and recognizes Davion as the rightful First Lord. He'd obviously be viewed as a traitor by all loyal Kuritans and I wonder how much he'd be trusted by the Robinson folk??

Just add a name and a little more background and you've got it Takiro.
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Each chased the Ice Hellion, hunting it down.
All failed to match the predator's speed and grace.
Khan Cage smiled and said, "And that is how we shall be."

The Remembrance (Clan Ice Hellion) Passage 5, Verse 3, Lines 1 - 5
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